. >> i think of john taft working in the financial services industry at rbc capital markets. it is a question of american stewardship of those fortunate, whether they were at harvard or whatever school. to borrow a phrase, rachel, i don't know where i got this phrase. the idea of americans feeling they have a barrier to entry. they have a barrier into the game. how does michael porter responded that? >> tom, i think they do feel that. i think we have to respond to that on multiple levels. and some of the things we have to do our rather obvious. and we can't get them done from public policy. >> how do brief the president on his response with committed to colleges? -- committed to colleges? that is original, people who have good skills, not great skills. how does michael porter responded that? >> the biggest gap we have in america in what are called middle skills. is that your high end for your degree, but the important roles in the economy that can be productive and support high wage. we haven't -- we have a broken strategy for developing those middle skills. i think the presi