steve forbes, rich karlgaard, elizabeth macdonald, john tamby, rich. here we go but in spade >> 2014 will be a train wreck. you have a 40 million americans who work for companies with 100 employees or fewer. aetna ceo says the premium for the workers will go up 20 to 50% in the course of 2014. even the government's own health and human resources says that up to 80% of those workers could lose their coverage. >> yeah, that was actually based on an i.r.s. report. they were using information from h.h.s. rick, onically, a lot of the letters that are going to go out to the small plans are going to happen in octob. just before the election. that is dangerous for the democrats. >> it's actually interesting. a couple of fast rrectis. they won't lose the coverage, they will see the coverage change. it has to because of the requirements of the law. >> exactly. >> however, i'll make a prediction for you. a surprise prediction. keep something in mind. individual insurance, the insurance companies have wanted out of that business for years. they don make money. sma

go in focus with steve forbes, rich karlgaard, elizabeth macdonald, john tamby, rick unger and mike ozanian. how do we get back on track? >> cut welfare benefit not out of cruelty but out of compassion. there is nothing more life affirming than having a job but if you know the federal government will send you a check either way, less urgency to go out and find a job or adjust your wage demands to new realities. it's ultimately welfare serves as a work deterrent in the antieconomic growth after that. >> emac, the point is after the reforms, in the clinton era, the republican and democratic reforms we had a massive decrease in the number of welfare applicants and the case load plunge from 12 million in '96 to 5.9 million. more than half. good effect. we're going in the opposite direction. >> i hear you. i don't like what the administration is doing in terms of the band aids because it's their jobs policy and the economic policies that are really a check on the job growth in the united states. listen, i would say don't cut food stamps. what about the single mom with the child? she needs food s