focus with steve forbes, rich carlguard, elizabeth macdonald, sabrina safer, rick unger and john tamma tammany. john, is it hurting jobs or not? >> the secretary's comment is a reminder of how fraudulent the economics profession has become. the simple truth is obamacare is a huge cost for businesses. that's going to reduce profits. reduced profits means less investment which means lower job creation. yodon't need a ph.d. to state the obvious. this is common sense. it's anti-capital formations and anti-job creation. >> she said every economist. we've spoken to economists who don't say that, even democratic economists admit there's going to be some job loss. >> i will agree with you that saying every economist is an overstatement. i know some who disagree with her. but two quick points. first, i'll remind you two weeks ago, aol tried to pull a big change in their 401(k) program blaming obamacare. nobody bought it. it was a lie and they had to back off of it. a lot of compans are trying to blame obamacare when they want to do something else. point number two, remember, 96% of american businesses