let's go in focus with steve forbes, rich karlgaard, morgan brennan, john tandy,. are they coming?young people think they're immortal. they won't sign up unless they need it or have mental health problems. of course they are going up. if they don't go up you are getting less or going to a different network. >> rick, it's expensi to sign up. >> this is premature, don't you think? we know younger people tend to do things at the last minute. i don't know what laughed but that is a silly thing to laugh at. it's nothing new. we know about the younger people. let's wait and see, let's wait and see -- stunning. if we're laughing at logic, why are we bothering to have a conversation. you must not have had kids. more importaly, i want to talk about the reassurance pool that people don't know is there. we have a reassurance pool so if numbers don't work out this year there is something to fall back on, so we'll keep any increases fo the next three years down. >> mike, we are laughing because yes, we know young people, and you can cry or laugh. you haveour choice. i choose to laugh but the fa

let's go in focus with steve forbes, rich karlgaard, morgan brennan, john tandy,. are they coming?hink they're immortal. they won't sign up unless they need it or have mental health

go in focus with steve forbes, rich karlgaard, sabrina schaefer, john tandy and bruce jackson. welcome, bruce. thank you for coming on. steve, were the protesters right? >> absolutely right in terms of choice. government gives you very little choice. we are ending up as a people paying more for less. no reason a 60-year-old man should pay for maternity benefits. so the whole thing is collapsing. both in cost in terms of joyce and in terms of the roll-out. against the whole grain of american individualism and free markets that is turning caris city to abundance. this has gone the opposite direction of the soviet union. berlin wall fell in 1989 the last i checked. >> bruce, going back to listen to the protesters before obamacare was rolled out, you realize how right some of their concerns were, don't you? >> well, certainly there are people who are, whose costs will go up but it is because they get a better plan, they get essentially health benefits they haven't had before. for most part they will get more choices. we have to remember here, they were uninsured. they had no choice