john thain, of course, ran the stock exchange, former goldman sachs. what's your problem with mr. feel like he has a relationship with the chief financial officer of uber that goes back more than a decade so, you mentioned just john thain used to run the new york exchange it was one of his first big jobs he gave jay a big job there as well, also the cfo role. he moved over to merrill lynch a couple years later to fix the mortgage crisis there. again, he brought chae along then he was let go from merrill lynch or bank of america that took over the company, moved over to another financial company. along came chai as well. and now, soon after john thain got on the board of uber, he named chai as ceo of uber. so, chai seems to be thain's sidekick so, thain is the chair of the audit committee overseeing chai's work -- >> you're not questioning chai's work he's considered a remarkably talented guy from what i understand. >> no, we don't have any problems with chai it's basically the problem of someone who's been friends with him for more than ten years overseeing his work, that's the pr