john, that 19th ofjune date is so _ that 19th ofjune date is so important. the star. that was borisjohnson�*s birthday, when he was said to have been ambushed with that, and it wasn't his fault. it also suggests these fines are coming in chronological order and there could be many more to come.— chronological order and there could be many more to come. yeah, and i think it's been _ be many more to come. yeah, and i think it's been a _ be many more to come. yeah, and i think it's been a really _ be many more to come. yeah, and i think it's been a really bad - be many more to come. yeah, and i think it's been a really bad day for i think it's been a really bad day for boris _ think it's been a really bad day for borisjohnson to be think it's been a really bad day for boris johnson to be the first sitting — boris johnson to be the first sitting prime minister to be found to have _ sitting prime minister to be found to have broken the law, but i think there _ to have broken the law, but i think there are _ to have broken the law, but i think there are two reason

sorry l about that. john, don't worry! you don't have — about that. john, don't worry! may have added it very late in the day. possibly my fault because i thought it was a great story. thank you both very much. that's it for the papers tonight. karim benzema was the star tonight, as his hat—trick helped real madrid to a 3—1victory over the defending champions chelsea at stamford bridge, giving them an advantage in the first leg of the champions league quarterfinals. natalie pirks wraps up all the action for us. in the pouring london rain, the winds of change are blowing through stamford bridge. but as the search for new owners intensifies, old friends are in town. ancelotti's real madrid are much improved since defeat to chelsea last season. and when the blues failed to capitalise on their chances, karim benzema pounced with feeling. it was about to get worse. chelsea undone again moments later. benzema maturing like a fine wine. chelsea needed to shake off his hangover, and fast. you couldn't take your eyes off this next one. laying the foundations of a comeback? nope

that like? >> really hard. >> hard for debra, to. but she needed her own life. she and john asked a counselor for advice. >> and the counselor suggested that i have rules for the girls. >> boundaries. >> the therapist said, look at you, have a right to be happy. this is your relationship. and john's position was this therapist is absolutely right. >> so, debra weighed the options. listening to her family? or embrace what felt like the best thing to come along in years? she chose love. or what certainly felt like it. what's the old expression? till death do us part? >> the bond between mother and daughters already fraying, might just break thanks to a startling decision by debra. coming up -- >> i knew my family would be, not very happy with me. >> their daughters fight back by doing some digging into john. >> she bought these trackers four cars and she put one on my mom's tesla, so she found out where john was going. >> when "dateline" continues. relief extra strength. the first and only 24-hour eye allergy itch relief drop without a prescription. a single drop of pataday on

is that your anticipation? johnnot the decision we made but that is what i would expect, getting the balance sheet reduction process underway. we have set up the principles around that. we worked hard on coming up with a good plan for that. so, yes, if we make the decision at the may meeting, technically, that process would begin at the beginning of june. it could continue for quite some time. mike: two quick follow-ups. what is your estimate on the impact of rates on reducing the balance sheet? two, what would trigger sales of mortgage-backed securities? you said you might do that. john: this question about how you convert balance sheet reduction, how big of a change in the federal funds target is that equal to? that is hard. to calculate that number given all the uncertainty, given the balance sheet policy has affected the economy in different ways. the way i think about it, as we reduce the balance sheet, as we announce doing that, you are seeing upward pressure on longer-term interest rates, term premium. we are

i think that's the math, john. , the word marijuana? don't they have something more, rising crime rates, don't they have a population that needs actual help from government? this -- this is their focus? >> anita: they have a lot of things on their plate, will, but they are focussing on this. a quote from a washington state lawmaker, this is representative melanie morgan, she says the term marijuana itself is racist as recreational marijuana use was more popular, it was negatively associated with mexican immigrants. does anybody really think that? >> no. i'm not 100% plugged in to the marijuana community, but i don't think that everyone associates, i don't think anyone associates the word marijuana with any particular language, much less ethnicity. i think it's a pop culture term at this point, divorced from racist association. >> john: you mentioned a second ago more important things to focus on like crime. fox news digital reached out so some companies heavily supportive of black lives matter and other efforts to d

. >> he is in his studio at home period had the honor of talking with john lewis so talk about that experience. >> i first met john lewis during the last election in 1982 with the georgia senate runoff in georgia was having it and on election night if you are a politician you want to give the impression you are off doing important things we were really doing is eating the same cheese cubes just in a different room and at the hometown newspaper walk into the ballroom and there was john robert lewis just standing there. among the people a senior congressman already the civil-rights monument that he began the unfolding conversation that did not stop until one week before he died on july 17 of 2020. and one of the things they had to fight in that relationship was treating john lewis as the black guys somebody like me would like sometime i call it theov easy listening version. because even in the beginning and king stansbury's tennessee stokely carmichael and john lewis went to battle over different approaches and john was seen as somebody doctor king and one of the leaders with stokely carmichael.

i was curious as to what that would mean? john kirby: i don't think anybody here is ready to be fatalistic about what happens in mariupol. our assessment today is that it is still contested and the ukrainians are so fighting to defend mariupol. it is obviously russians want mary. because of its -- mariupol because it is a port city and it would provide them unfettered and unhindered land access between the donbas and crimea, and if in fact what they say is true that they want to secure for themselves the donbas area, the area they claim is russian provinces, then mariupol from a geographic perspective, you can understand why that would be important to them in terms of their efforts in the donbas. it has great significance to the ukrainian people because of what it represents to their economic life led and it is there a city and it is part of their country and they have not given up on it and we are not giving up on them either. >> can you confirm that some of the u.s. participated in the exercise in norway recently? can you tell u

and decide whether it believes that russia deserves a place there, john. >> natasha bertrand, gratefulor that live reporting. let's get insight from retired general, from the brookings institute. general, grateful for your time. zelenskyy's case is the world security system is broken, that was his case before the united nations earlier before leaving for an important meeting of nato foreign ministers. secretary of state antony blinken, america's top diplomat said, the case is clear. >> what we've seen in bucha is not the random act of a rogue unit. it's a deliberate campaign to kill, to torture, to rape. to commit atrocities. >> but is there anything in the current system that can be done about it when russia and china have veto power on the security council. you have an active war, hot war, still under way. and you have pictures as zelenskyy says probably just the first wave of atrocities. can anything be done to fix the system? >> it would be very difficult right now to do that. this san opportunity for the u.n. to look very hard at itself. but you're right, with china as a permanent

and i bet you can guess who that might be. >> john: yeah, no question, a lot of people out there who pay their taxes every year, and if it does result in higher inflation, that means that everybody is going to be paying more. aishah hasnie on capitol hill, thank you so much. sandra, this is a big issue we are going to be tackling throughout the afternoon. >> sandra: bottom line, if president biden says he's going to pay for all this cancelling of student loan debt, by taxing the billionaires, that's just flat out wrong. because if by most estimates this continues that spike in inflation, that is an ultimate tax on hard working american families, john. and they ultimately will be footing the bill for that. a lot of questions for this. steve forbes is going to join us live on that, grover norquist as well. they will dig in, john. >> john: looking forward to that coming up, sandra. >> sandra: president biden meeting virtually this hour with mexico's president, after mexican authorities struck an agreement with texas governor greg abbott. increase mexico security presence along the texas

even though they have pictures of him in and out of the subway system, and the other thing that struck me, johnu will. i did not listen that closely to know whether they are all convictions but yet he still had the weapon for over a decade or more that he purchased in ohio. so the question would be, you know, at what point should someone have seen he had this weapon and would the charges and perhaps conviction warrant that weapon to be surrendered. so, a couple of things along the way. many other questions i'm sure police are looking at from his mental make-up to other motives behind this, but at the end of the day i think the 30 hours plus from the commencement of this crime to his capture is outstanding. >> gillian: one thing we know, bill, out of the press conference he did do in the intervening time go into a mcdonald's off 6th street and st. mark's street, odd thing for a suspect on the lam to do when law enforcement is looking for him. he faces up to life in prison, the government plans to prove james traveled across the state line in order to commit the offense and transported materials

they had communicated with john by calling his drop phone. and each of them said that. charlie louderman says john didn't seem happy to see his east texas friends again. >> he didn't want to see me there. he didn't like that. he was twirling on his pen, pop, pop, like a principal going to give me some licks. >> reporter: charlie told the jury about seeing vast sums of money change hands. >> sometimes it'd be $5,000, sometimes it'd be $80,000. i counted $83,000 on my bedroom floor. >> reporter: investigators were able to follow the money on frank's computers. they found wire transfer receipts that added up to more than three-quarters of a million dollars. assistant prosecutor rick daniel. it sounds hard to believe that frank, the accountant, the meticulous numbers guy, is just throwing around money. and not only throwing around money, but they're documenting it. they're wire transfers. it's hard to believe. >> right. at first it was all cash. and i think he just kind of got tired of having to go and meet, and once he started with the wire transfer, i think he probably r

if that is what putin is doing, does that constitute genocide? johnwell, i think that's obviously about the most serious charge that can be leveled at a country. and the russians didn't like it at all. biden, as judy said, said that he was speaking essentially from his heart as an american and wasn't making a formal determination at this point. but, obviously, the president's words have a lot of impact. at this point, the state department will go through a process where the lawyers will apply the facts of what's actually going on to the law. the legal definition of genocide is an intent to destroy a racial, national, ethnic, or religious group. and so the lawyers in the state department will look at the intelligence information. they will look at things that putin says and see if that satisfies that determination of the definition in the genocide convention. nick: does russia's killing large number of ukrainians, forcibly transferring ukrainian children from ukraine into russia, and putin's denying that ukraine is a country, does all of that add up, i

that's a lot of meetings. john roberts in washington, sandra, good to have you back. >> sandra: developing story and we are watching it. sandra smith in new york. our new reporting comes as newly surfaced emails suggest joe biden paid for hunter's legal fees. part of a mega deal with a chinese company and even got a 10% cut. remember, president biden said many times he's never discussed foreign business dealings with his son. >> john: on capitol hill yesterday, attorney general garland refusing to give senators an update on the investigation into hunter biden as he faces more pressure to appoint a special counsel. mark meredith is live at the white house with the latest on this, and mark, is the white house showing any signs of concern that this investigation may be going in a direction they don't want it to go in? >> they have concerns they are not sharing publicly. good afternoon to you. republicans on the capitol are saying they are going to keep the pressure on no matter what the justice department may find. we

that road. i'll add a response to john the point you made and then expand that maybe into a question for for jacob on based on what you just said. john i think the question about populism versus elitism that this university professor asked would have been more appropriate 15 years ago than now because what we have learned in the last few years, is that what we are not seeing on online for example, is the voice of the broad public what we're discovering is how easily manipulable all of these systems and platforms are by small numbers of dedicated actors be they the internet research agency in saint petersburg anti-vaxers who are able to use a combination of bots and trolls and search engine optimization to make a very small number. of activists look like a consensus online whether they're counselors who are typically small numbers of ideological left-wing radicals who were able to project themselves as much bigger forces. the reason we have a constitution of knowledge and that i wrote a book about it. is in an unstructured marketplace of ideas, it turns out instead of getting sort of everyone equal

we'll tell you where that may become a reality. >> john: how would you like $1,000 because? would give people a guaranteed income with no need to earn it. the question from critics, if everyone gets the money for nothing, why would anyone ever want to go to work? kelly o'grady live with the story. kelly? >> good to see you, john. that's what businesses are concerned about. los angeles is the latest to explore universal basic income. they'll be offering the program to thousands of rest tents. under the program, each resident would receive $1,000 for three years. participants have to be over the age of 18 and make less than 56,000 for a single household and 96,000 for a family of four. 26 cities have similar programs and many point to a sign that ubi works. a big critique is guaranteeing whether it will shrink the labor force. the fear is these don't address long-term inequality. i spoke with this restaurant owner. he's already struggling with finding people to work. here's what he had to say. >> we're going to put more money in the hands of people that are going to be less lik

let me throw that to john. go ahead, john. you react to that? well, it's not a victory. it's, it's caught making a desert and calling it piece that i think that the cutting off of gas is going to be the next escalation. it's already started with poland and bulgaria, or the europeans for one minute say that they will pay in roubles in another minute, say that they won't. and unless the escalation, which has been explicitly threatened by vladimir putin notably against britain, unless at escalation takes a military form. i don't know what exactly he means. maybe he means some kind of a hypersonic strike on a british target. unless he means that the logical next step is indeed the escalation that you have mentioned, namely cutting off the gas supplies. even if those gas supplies were only cut off for, let's say, a week, the rise in gas prices would be so catastrophic, and the effect on the markets would be so immense that that would itself strike a very severe blow. as of course would a permanent cutoff. so yes, i think europe is stuck in the middle. europe has cooled the wr

john, you were probably covering that at the time. the economy. evidently good at foreign policy, we'll discuss that another time. he needs janet yellen next to him, where is his larry kudlow. janet yellen was at the fed. i need an economic plan, i don't need slogans. slogans are for the communication division. there is a time you are in creative writing and a time you are in math class. i want the best math students to help our economy out and don't need rhetoric because we are beyond rhetoric, we make our judgment about the price of gas, when it went up, the price of eggs, especially now with easter, 48 hours away, we are all making our own judgments. i find it almost insulting that he's coming out with these phrases. i mean, where is susan rice, where are the people making the decisions. why is he always alone looking for somebody's hand to shake. >> john: inflation versus wages here, brian alluded to the fact i covered the h. w. bush administration, his way of saying i'm old. but 8.5% year over year march to march, wages had gone

let me throw that to john. go ahead, john. you react to that? well, it's not a victory, it's, it's caught making a desert and calling it piece that i think that the cutting off of gas is going to be the next escalation. it's already started with poland and bulgaria, or the europeans for one minute say that they will pay in roubles in another minute, say that they won't. and unless the escalation, which has been explicitly threatened by vladimir putin notably against britain, unless at escalation takes a military form. i don't know what exactly he means. maybe he means some kind of a hypersonic strike on a british target. unless he means that the logical next step is indeed the escalation that you have mentioned, namely cutting off the gas supplies. even if those gas supplies were only cut off for, let's say, a week, the rise in gas prices would be so catastrophic, and the effect on the markets would be so immense that that would itself strike a very severe blow. as of course would a permanent cutoff. so yes, i think europe is stuck in the middle

yeah, and it's even worse than that because the second edition john and i corresponded frequently after because i was the publisher of it for okay, that's right. how could i forget that and don't forget the audiobook narrated by penn gillette. yes, it's spectacular. anyway, i so i have a spectacular i owe a big debt to cato because at the time no one i couldn't get a commercial publisher for the book. and here we are 30 years later. it's a fair to say a classic which is what we call books that are ignored for 25 years before anyone responding is because he was getting so much money from chicago that i was really really excel sold and the second edition. so quite well, so i thought i'd just say three drinks quickly. the first is about the book the second is about what we learned from the book and the third is about the environment wherein right now first thing about the book is is get it by it read it. it's not only readable and comprehensive. it's the only thing like it unbelievably until this book came along there was nothing to read that took you from the very beginning of the ideas o

so we could say that john lee is probably of an unpopular and contagious political figure in hong kong. when we look at the statistics that of like, throughout his term, his i, popularity, ratings are actually was, are one of the lowest among his colleagues. and since they very often found our 2019 antique, i'm in protest, which was handled by john the mainly that john. these are popularity ratings and a bit disapproval ratings have been outnumbering the approval factors that can tell like a sense of unpopularity, like in hong kong about these political factor, and many lay people as well. you have spoken to citizens in hong kong, they attributes on his, our popularity to his heart, lie handling of the protest and the subsequent correct out on the sense. so it doesn't sound like he's well liked. at this point who leads hong kong is very much a decision made by bay gene despite the performative election process. so what message is bathing sending with this choice with this choice that isn't well liked? so that means a lot to hong kong that's like throughout the past 25 years on hong kon

and our 2019 antic i'm and protest which was handled by john the mainly that john . these are popularity ratings and a bit. this approval ratings have been outnumbering the approval factors that can tell like a sense of unpopularity, like in hong kong about these political factor. and many lay people, as we have spoken to a citizens in hong kong, they attributes on his popularity to his heart, lie handling the protest and the subsequent crack down on the sense. so it doesn't sound like he's well liked. at this point who leads hong kong is very much a decision made by bay gene despite the performative election process. so what message is badging sending with this choice with this choice that isn't well liked? so that means a lot to hong kong that's light throughout the past 25 years on hong kong hat for 4 chief executives who were entropy, nerve, administrative offices and professionals. and these time john lee will likely be the 1st security official to take that the top job. so are many see that as like a reflection of beijing's sheep tang approach to rule hong kong

i'm glad you brought that up because let me go to john in paris. it. what i find really interesting to watch is that there is this enormous attempt to isolate russia, but the end result, the way i look at john, is that europe is isolating itself absolutely only question of winning and losing in a way the question is rather old fashioned that you put peter, and in my view what the west wants, what the united states wants, is for russia to engage in a war of attrition. a general milly, the supreme commander of the head of the chief of staff of the american army, said that before the war broke out, he said if that right, if russia were to invade the westwood almond insurrection in ukraine, and this has been said by many commentators that the american model is to have an afghanistan for ukraine. so the, the war could carry on as a war of attrition. a protracted period during which russia would, for example, occupy a certain number of cities in ukraine. it already, i, civil as it is. and those cities would be subject to a long war of attrition and should be

>> we know from john that there was at least on one occasion where he was engaged that he was intimates. there was a love triangle and stephanie lazarus had deep feelings for john ruetten, and may have had a motive to harm sherri rasmussen. >> was sherri's killer a scorned lover or a jealous coworker? >> we had two women on the list who, in our opinion, had a motive to harm her. >> debra, the nurse, and stephanie lazarus? >> correct. >> a few weeks later, cops in northern california tracked down debra and secretly scooped up a sample of her trash which contained dna. it was sent to the crime lab in l.a. for analysis and 72 hours later, came an answer. >> she was not the donor of the dna profile from the bite. >> that left just one possible suspect, number five on the list, john ruetten's ex-girlfriend, stephanie lazarus. nuttall called the rasmussens. >> we came home and there was a message on our phone from a detective that they wanted to talk to us. i thought oh, yeah, right. i thought it was just another false hope. >> this is detective nuttall? >> right. >> he said that they were o

investigative reporter jaxon vanderbeken has that story. john sellon: i was on site with the elevator company and the builder to evaluate the elevator equipment that had been installed. jaxon vanderbeken: more than a decade ago, john sellon advised on the millennium tower's elevator system. john: to confirm that it was in compliance with the contract documents and the intent of the--of the design. jaxon: but today, part of that elevator system is having trouble. sellon says he's never seen anything like it in his 37 years working in the industry. john: that's a highly unusual condition. jaxon: the condition, it turns out, is a function of the building not only sinking and tilting, but sliding. in documents obtained by nbc bay area's investigative unit, millennium engineer ron hamburger calls the phenomenon horizontal movement. he now estimates the tower's 10-foot thick slab foundation has moved west a full inch since it was built. that's widening the gap between the high-rise and the garage elevator it shares with the adjacent building. hamburge

so the same number of refugees across the border. >> that's right, john. de the point beautifully we are seeing so many internally displaced people within ukraine, so we talk about that 4 million number coming into countries like poland, but don't forget, all the people without homes inside ukraine, that could cross over at any moment if things were to get worse. and look, i have to just personally say as someone covering the war and here to also ensure the protection and dignity of the refugees, i'm completely overwhelmed by the nonprofits that are working on the ground and what the pols are doing for the people. i keep hearing from the mayors i talk to, a mayor from a border town and a mayor from warsaw, we have to get serious about this. we are in an emergency situation but now in week five and the war is not ending any time soon. it is dragging on and we have to get serious about long-term solutions. we have millions of refugees that are staying with people, staying in shelters, we have not seen any tent cities pop up, which is incredible, but what happ

that. relationship was treating john lewis as the acceptable kind of black guy that someone like me would like strength, i remind i sometimes called the easy listening version of the civil rights movement. yeah, right because because john even in the beginning in 1966 said kingston springs, tennessee. not far from where i live. stokely carmichael and john lewis went to battle over different approaches to the same end. in many ways and john was seen as you know somebody with dr. king it was a sunday school version. it was not violent. it was too accommodationist one of the snick leaders who was siding with with stokely carmichael said the problem with john lewis after 1963 was every time president johnson called john would send his suit to the cleaners and then get on a plane. so he was seen as too much a part of of the establishment that that was trying to be. shifted um but the way ultimately the way i resolve that if i did successfully. was through the language of the southern church right of which i'm a part in the broadest sense. i'm not a very good christian as robert louis stevenson said

and somehow or another that's what john did . >> it's fascinating, you talk about selma. some of this socomplicated because we talk about that . there's three marches and in some ways with baldwin the complexity of selma as evidenced, there is plenty sunday and then there's the march that king gets up and turns around and says the lord. >> he didn't show up on plenty sunday. >> and then they sing nobody going to turn usaround and then the third march of course is when everyone goes . they leave, they get angry, they go organize. typically we tell the story of selma in this uncomplicated way. the way in which we tell it kind of flattens out the complexity of the moment because baldwin is going to identify with those young folk an interesting sort of way even though he's an adored king. >> it is flattened out i teach this. we think of tulane as the vanderbilt of louisiana so thank you. >> it's already mister princeton. did you get your passport stamped on the way? so the way the story is told, if we were watching this on tv you have lewis and hosea williams coming across the

one of the things, john, that we're seeing that there are names circumstance light trying to figure outrson is. that will be a big help, to finding who they are. but those accounts who you're hearing inside this subway, i want to paint a picture for viewers really quickly, if i could, john, is that this has happened during the rush hour, at a time when, on a subway line that is a commuter train. people were just probably going to work this morning. this isn't sort of a tourist area of brooklyn, where it would be incredibly packed, but even still, just horrific, horrific on this train. and actually, we're getting moved right now. i'll go back to you john, if i can. >> brynn gingras, having a little bit of problem with your audio right there. joining me now is the new york congressman, lydia velasquez. i just want to confirm, can you hear me? >> yes, i can hear you. just give me the latest. obviously, this is a horrific scene in your hometown. you heard the police briefing earlier. i'm wondering if you have any disinformation information. most importantly, about the ongoing search for the

remind you of the words from the gospel of john that's what the savior says, my time has not yet come you there is always time, what this means, there are many interpretations. uh, this phrase of salvation, but today understanding these words i personally do not deserve this. what a savior can give you is not what you deserve. russian culture great russian culture that's what they deserve? and you deserve it what do you have now that, in principle, is opposed to what the savior taught?

that's where you go see they the apple cart turnover in it's not going to be pretty john. yes, that's possible. i mean, i guess your question is, will there be some mass discontent in riots? and i mean, it's certainly as possible, but the amount of social control here is, is tremendous and growing every day and they're starting to implement something that resembles it. so for credit system and a lot of americans are indebted and they're on the hook as you would say. and there's a lot of ways to exert control over the american people in the european people. and of course, the mass media is the greatest tool of social control us because there's so much pressure to conform. you don't even, i can't even say public that i once used to live in russia. if i would say that i simply lived in russia, i don't have to even voice any, any support for russia. the fact that lived in russia is compromising is enough to get me a lot of trouble here today. so i just say i live in eastern europe, i have to hide that fact. so it's, remember the mass media is a tremendous amount, a tremendous t

that question is for john berry john. you wrote a book on roger williams and the entitled the title also included a reference to the soul the creation of the soul of america and i was wondering how the issues and that book would reflect today and where we are in the discussions. we're talking about the soul of america. thank you, susan. friend of mine wanted to get me into the conversation, i guess you know that. you know that book. actually began with a book on the homefront world war one and i had planned to you know, i identified certain characters that were going to in culminating events in 1919 a very difficult year in american history one of the characters that i was going to follow was billy sunday and just doing due diligence on billy sunday. i started going back to the beginning of the argument over church and state in the role of politics and so forth and so on. and i discovered that if you change the grammar. that the argument between john winthrop and roger williams winthrops, of course a guy that said, you kno

so it becomes that much more challenging to resupply troops in the eastern parts of the country, john. >> so clarissa, while i have you, what are you learning about the temporary bridge that has opened in irpin, that of course right next to kyiv i remember you were reporting there the collapsed bridge at the start of the war, there's now a temporary bridge in its place? >> reporter: so this is kind of an iconic moment, i think, in a sense because that bridge became a symbol for the horror that was unfolding in the suburbs around kyiv, and you saw this tide of humanity as people were desperately trying to escape the shelling, the bombardment, and get across to the relative safety of central kyiv, and they were cut off for so long. the ukrainians had blown up that bridge in order to prevent russian forces from gaining access to the city's center. now today they have built a temporary bridge that will essentially allow aid workers and construction efforts to begin in earnest as they sort of start this herculean task of trying to rebuild these areas. the mayor of irpin has also announced

ukraine fight and they have reconstituted some forces in the kharkiv area, and accurately portrayed that johnjust did, taking it through trey. and great to see trey back in kyiv again reporting live from there. and so but what is happening is the pattern of behavior that we are tracking with the russians is very much like it was for the battle of kyiv. they are road-bound and not taking advantage of the open terrain that's in the donbas region. it's very conducive to high end armor warfare where you put your tanks and armored vehicles in attack formation, supported each other, supported by artillery and air support and overwhelm a defender. they are not doing that. committing forces piecemeal as they did for the battle of kyiv and essentially roadbound, makes them very susceptible to the ukrainians here. now, why the russians should have an advantage here. it does not look like they are going to. >> gillian: general, i want to make sure i get this in with you because it grabbed my attention. medvedev, now serving a senior post in the russia foreign ministry said if finland and sweden join nat

odesa is the big prize on the black sea. >> john: that would take this line out like that. and then color all this in red. >> right. and a point secretary blinken made, i see a lot of losses here, civilians casualty. i would not say the ukrainians are winning, necessarily, it's a humanitarian catastrophe but it could get worse and russia i don't think has given up targeting kyiv and taken all of ukraine and better position to do it if they have the land bridge. >> john: if they cut off ukraine from the black sea, it destroys the economy. >> sandra: fox news alert, judge in new york finding former president donald trump in civil contempt, for failing to turn over documents related to an inquiry by the new york state attorney general's office. fining donald trump $10,000 per day until he complies with the somebody seeking records related to the trump organization's financial dealings. the attorney general has been investigating whether the trump organization misstated the value of its real estate properties to get loans and tax deductions. >>> all right, president biden insis