. >> in a minute we're going to go to john thon carl. should romney put bob mcdonald on the ticket? >> listen, i'm a big fan of bob mcdonald. if he wants bob mcdonald to be vp, sure. i think he'd be great. >> how would it help? >> i think there are a lot of folks that make great vp. it would certainly help us in virginia. i think mitt romney wins virginia now. if bob mcdonald's on the ticket, he will help us in virginia, north carolina. and a lot of the states where suburban voters matter. and bob mcdonald he was my seat mate in the house of delegates when you and i first met. he is father, he is a family man, businessman. he is somebody who understands what the independent voters want. that's results. >> do you think he's been hurt on the national stage by some issues that came up in the virginia legislature? >> i think there's been aempts to try and do that, but i don't. i think his leadership in virginia is -- has been stel rar. if you look at the public polling in virginia, bob mcdonald is still very popular. he's a results driven conservative. he's been able to manage the budge