republican senator john thune on the effort to avert r government shutdown. forms of universal health care pick up steam among democrats, and much more. >> woodruff: we return now to the negotiations over border n.ending and a looming government shutd for that i spoke a short time ago to republican senator john thune of south dakota. he is the senate majority whip.n senator thank you very much for joining us. first of all, how confident are you that president trump is going to seen on to thi agreement? >> well, good evening, judy. u know,confident, but, of course, until we actually have the final text and theen prescomes out and says something definitively, i think 're just going to wait and let him make that announcement himselat but the indns are positive. i think that he probably realizes this is the best deal he could get under the circumstances, and the negotiations have concluded. we'vgot to avoid another government shutdown which would happen midnight friday if thi deal isn't agreed to. so i'm hopeful that the president will come arounand at some point

republican senator john thune is here with us. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, charles. >> the notion that somehow this is sabotage, that senator mcconnell was pulling a fast one. what are your thoughts? >> i don't think he's pulling a fast one. he's asking people to go on the record and find out where people are on this great hot new idea that democrats have come up with that somebody else gets to pay for. >> are you surprised that all of the declared democratic candidates and many of those that are on the cusp of declaring have said, hey, this is part of our platform, too. we support this? >> it is kind of surprising, charles. if you look at where the democratic party is moving, they have taken a hard socialist turn. the issue with every one of these socialists fantasies, it sounds good as long as somebody else is paying for it. when you hand somebody the bill and realize what the price tag is, they have a different impression. that is where a majority of americans as they look at this and they listen to this discussion, that'

john thune said i would prefer the president would stay off twitter, particularly with regard to these important national security issues where you have people who are experts and have a background and are professionals. missouri senator roy blunt told the "post," this is an intel community the president has largely put in place and i have confidence in them and i think he should, too. unlike all out trumpites like days of, say see themselves as independent from the president. they join chuck schumer who effectively argued for an intervention to dan coats. senator schumer urged him to impress upon the president how critically important it is for him to join you and the leadership of our intelligence community in speaking with a unified and accurate voice about national security threats. today the president was trying to put out the fire, he started telling reporters he spoke with his intel chiefs about their testimony. >> reporter: mr. president, did you talk to your intelligence chiefs today about the displeasure you had? >> i did and they said they were totally misquoted and they wer

but with kim john thune on the horizon trump feels like is on top of the world i hope that very positive things are going to happen i think that it will be a very exciting couple of days what are the feelings mutual well north korea seems to be excited and no wonder after all historic supporting it is all that's able to some media reports even claim north korean leader kim said this to us top diplomat mike pompei oh i'm a father and husband and i have children and i don't want my children to carry the nuclear weapon on that back their whole life still considering criticism donald trump faces over the summit from opposition at home north korea through its own state media war in the skeptics to not let this is sturrock opportunity be shattered image does not only concern just the washington in pyongyang so how do the other regional neighbors feeling about it. despite the fact japan's will sever a north korean test missiles flying over it was the concern over the outcome of the talks after all if a deal is struck it's unclear whether japan's concerns will be addressed what made the situatio

you are hearing a number of republican after republican members of the republican leadership like john thune, others who are influential in the conference like john cornen very concerned about the precedent this would set. perhaps another president could go down this road and declare a national emergency on something they would be concerned about. there is real concerns about the impact that this could have long term. now, this is not just some moderate republicans who are concerned. some conservatives, everyone from susan collins to ron johnson, a conservative from wisconsin saying there are serious questions about the president considering this option. >> i am concerned about it. i think it's a dubious constitutionality. as a member of the senate, i am concerned when any president regardless of party circumvents the appropriations process and repurposes large amounts of money. >> this would just be another erosion of congressional authority in this particular area. >> reporter: now, the key question i asked thoese senator and others is would you vote to block the president from going forwa

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john thune making it clear he doesn't support this effort going forward. neither does john cornyn. mitch mcconnell has made it very clear that this could open up a hornet's net on capitol hill if the president were to go this route, because he could not stop a vote from going forward. ultimately, it's a question about whether republicans would vote to block this from moving forward. the talks to avert a government shutdown by february 15 still moving forward. members who are negotiating tell me tonight that they are optimistic that they are moving closer to what they can ultimately reach a deal on how to secure the border but democrats still say there's no money for the president's wall in that demand. will the president ultimately accept what congress reaches a deal that they reach? that's a big question tonight. we will see if the president lays out any more clarity about what he could ultimately support from this bipartisan negotiation that's happening and whether he signals he will make that national emergency declaration. >> as you know, the house speaker, nancy pelosi, she wi

and i am told that at a lunch that yesterday that basically john thune said to the republicans, hey,ve a problem with this, just take it up with the white house. don't come to us. go to them. because they need to hear from you directly. balls, you know, if the president does take this action, there is a possibility that a senator or a democrat could bring up a resolution of approval or deny the president the ability to declare a national emergency. in which case it's unclear whether or not that would fail. it might, in fact, pass? if that passed in the senate. >> the president would have to veto it. >> that's true. house democrats are sure to seize on it and hold a vote. exactly the president would have to veto it. >> let me get your thoughts on this interesting testimony from general votell, the fact that he is ac knowledgeing he was not consulted about the president's decision to withdraw troops from syria. he said he knew the president thought about it but didn't actually get any kind of consultation prior to the decision. what does that say about this president and his relationsh

and a lot of republicans took a stand and said no-- lindsey graham, john thune, others among them.y were trying to do to continue foreign aid. and it was the coolest thing because i also got to meet bono and talk about the things i love -- >> stephen: and you got to meet lindsey graham. >> and, you know, lindsey graham-- senator graham was on my program shortly thereafter. and h i said, "how cool was that event?" and he said, "you know, i don't really like their music." and i was fan girling talking to bono, by the way, who was very engaged wanting to talk about africa, the syria refugee crisis, the importance of, you know, u.s. aid continuing because of america's sort of leadership in the world and what that legacy is. i was just -- >> stephen: tell me about the zooropature. >> i was like, "oh, my god." >> stephen: that's too bad lindsey graham doesn't like bono. >> i hope senator graham isn't upset with me for saying that. he loves bono, and he loves the work bono has done. >> stephen: he just doesn't care for what bono has spent most of his life doing. >> he just hasn't memorize

. >> senator john thune and much of washington was watching closely. >> we're already sort of contemplating terms of our oversight role. we want to make sure that we're holding them accountable. >> laurie is joining us right now. amazing documentary. laur laurie, you were inside facebook during one of the company's most high-profile scandals. tell us viewers what it was like. >> look, it was during cambridge analyteca and mark zuckerberg isn't that forward facing, doesn't do interviews. it was incredibly tense but pifbtal moment for facebook, which is why we made sure to include this in this documentary. it was a turning people. point had been upset of what happened during the election and cambridge analytic was the straw that broke the camel's back. walking through facebook halls you have all these signs that read things like empathy and there was intensity and this pressure on mark zuckerberg. this was a big privacy scandal. to understand facebook at 15 years, which is what we try to do, you have to go back to the beginning and look at many of the privacy issues throughout. those bits and

there's some of the republican leadership of the senate john thune, mitch mcconnell. >> the chamber willpresentatives and senators. they will be standing and sitting. it will be interesting as we watch all of these members when they stand. democrats will be sitting a lot. republicans will be going up and down and applauding very vigorously. >> we were talking with mia love. she was talking about how it's kind of annoying to have to constantly stand and sit and stand and sit and also the kabuki of who stands and who sits and what do you do. there's senator chuck schumer. the democratic minority leader of the senate. >> he and the president have really gone after each other over the past 24, 48 hours. no love lost there. >> senator schumer gave a speech bemoaning the state of the union and president trump sent out a tweet saying he hasn't heard the speech. why is he attacking me. in senator schumer's defense because that is a decent point by president trump, last year he did do a call for unity. there's tim kaine who has called for ralph northam to stand down. in schumer's defense, last ye

a top republican in the senate, john thune, will join you to preview tonight state of the union addressided congress. what to expect and how that can affect ongoing talks between border security and funding of government and more. then, senator rand paul about why he booked others in his party. he voted against the senate amendment rebuking the president's plan to pull trips out of syria and afghanistan. he agrees with the president. more at the top of the hour. back to you. >> katie: federal prosecutors in new york have subpoenaed documents from the inaugural committee. they seek information on the committee spending including information about payments made directly by donors to vendors. we should be a violation of rules. the skaters over also looking into whether they accepted money in exchange for access to the white house. lastly, they request information on a los angeles-based financier. he's a past donor to members of both parties, including president obama and hillary clinton. he gave to the trumpet inauguration, as well. here's white house press secretary sarah sanders. >> it d

and even john thune, the number two republican in the senate, just told reporters, they're waiting towill do, because they're not willing to cross the president on this issue. democrats will say, put something on the floor, get a veto-proof majority if necessary, but a lot of republicans don't want to go there. they want the president to get behind this, which is why we're in a bit of holding pattern and the president again causing major anxiety on capitol hill, on the eve of this shutdown deadline by tomorrow night, ana? >> manu raju on capitol hill for us, with the play by play. and dana bash is here with me, she's cnn's chief

joining me now, senate majority whip john thune of south dakota. senator, great to see you today. as we preview what the president will say tonight in the state of the union, what are your expectations? >> i think the president has a great opportunity, as he does every year, to make his case to the american people for his agenda. he will be able to talk about some of the compliments of the past year and a little bit of a look back and look forward. the look back is pretty impressive, if you think about it. we've got record low unemployment, wages are at a 10-year high, business confidence is that a record level and consumer confidence is also at a record level. dodge jobs are up, wages are up. the company's a good story. i hope the present will talk about things he intends to to continue on that path toward greater opportunities and job growth for the mega people. >> harris: being in the public and leadership as you are, no doubt having some conversations throughout the entire process before and after the partial government shutdown, what is the state of our union? >> if you, harr

john cornyn said we're trying to figure out where he stands, and john thune, senator fromta south dasaidcannot say that these meetings are fruitless, we're trying to get somewhere. almost what president trump is doing is making the congressional system more positive. i mean, we're turning to them in hopes. we always thought the executive was very efficient, but, now, i mean, the hope for resolving this is frankly with the conference of senators and house members. >> woodruff: even as the presidt pronounces it a was of time. >> yes. >> woodruff: to the presidential contest. david, we have several peopl jumping in. today it's new jersey senator cory boofr. days ago howard schultz, the man who put starbucks on ths map ing he's seriously looking at this as an independent, getting a lot of flack, and one of the issues coming out of this is what demotats are saying they w to do with regard to taxing wealth, taxing people who are tremely wealthy to get more money for the government. t going an issue is tha to be in this campaign and what is howard schultz -- >> well, it's not a great issue to s

and mitch mcconnell knows that and john thune knows that and republicans in the senate know that because donald trump has reacted irrationally for so long. >> my response to what john was talking with you can argue politically that donald trump looks like he's trying to negotiate whereas the democrats aren't, you're saying that can be trump's argument now, but what he's laying the groundwork to to declare a a state of emergency because of this dire threat on the bored arder, firs allowing three weeks and then blaming it on politics, while he might actually have this expansive authority of the executive, how much has he weakened his legal position, look he always does, simply by opening his mouth. >> but, mika, here again, again, here's the day trader. and he's got lindsey graham -- poor lindsey graham. he was wandering around in circles just going what's my name? who am i? >> why is he doing it? >> hello, where am i? you have the chairman of the senate judiciary committee that is encouraging donald trump to unconstitutionally seize power from the legislative branch, power that he does no

and even john thune, the number two republican in the senate, just told reporters, they're waiting to see what the president will do, because they're not willing to cross the president on this issue. democrats will say, put something on the floor, get a veto-proof majority if necessary, but a lot of republicans don't want to go there. they want the president to get behind this, which is why we're in a bit of holding pattern and the president again causing major anxiety on capitol hill, on the eve of this shutdown deadline by tomorrow night, ana? >> manu raju on capitol hill for us, with the play by play. and dana bash is here with me, she's cnn's chief political correspondent. dana, why wouldn't these republicans vote for the bill and call his bluff? or at least put it on him to shut the government down? >> exactly. this is, which comes first, the chicken or the egg? so is it going to be incumbent on these senators and members of the house, but less so in the house, because it's run by the democrats, and they're going to almost certainly put it on the floor. the senate, it's different

. >> senator john thune and much of washington was watching closely. >> we're already contemplating howwant to make sure we're holding them accountable. >> reporter: everybody wants you to show up. will you testify before congress? >> i'm happy to if it's the right thing to do. >> reporter: you are the brand of facebook, the name of facebook. people want to hear from you. >> we want to make sure we send whoever is best informed to doing that. >> we took into consideration the statement that he made when you had asked him those questions and then began to more aggressively pursue the idea of having him come in. >> reporter: zuckerberg agreed to testify november 18th and it started. they built a mock hearing room. >> he worked hard to prepare and was ready. that was as high stage as it gets. >> facebook's ceo, mark zuckerberg, just hours away from testifying. >> it's all historic, the way it was for the tobacco execs in 1994. they had to bring in extra row of chairs for the senators because there was so much interest. >> we're listening. america is listening, and quite possibly, the world

. >> senator john thune and much of washington was watching closely. >> we're contemplating how to proceedaccountable. >> everybody wants you to show up, will you testify for congress? >> i'm happy to if it is the right thing to do. >> you're the brand and name of facebook, people want to hear from you? >> we just want to send whoever is best informed to do that. >> we took into consideration the statements he made, and then started to more aggressively pure sue the idea of him coming in. >> he agreed to testify, and the prep started. inside facebook they built a hock hearing room. >> he worked really hard to prepare and he was ready. >> that was as high stakes as it gets. >> facebook ceo mark zuckerberg hours away from testifying. >> it felt historic, the way it was for the tobacco exec in 1994. they had to bring in extra rows of chairs because there was so much interest. >> we're listening, america is listening, and quite possibly the world is listening, too. >> and wonder, could zuckerberg who historically had a problem with high pressure public pressure moments. >> it was a mistake and

>> the guy i was talking to, senator john thune, i have learned a lot from over the years. he also does his homework and also cannot be outworked. so, we are very different. parts of our style can be different. i've learned some from congresswoman no is going to be a great innovative governor that we hope to return power to. senator rounds, governor do guard, these are people with every possible opportunity have given me a word of encouragement and advice. it is said that republican leaders like to eat their young, that has never been my experience. i have found they are welcoming to people who want to step up and share the burden. >> you share time in the governor's office,. >> i was chief of staff and the government has 14000 employees. that may not sound like a lot to your viewers in california, texas or florida, but it's pretty big to a country boy like me. $4 billion is a lot of money. it's an opportunity to help the governor put his values and views into place. the governor is the ceo of wood, corporation, the chief of staff is the coo. that is the detail work at whic