today we're talking with former congressman john tierney, who is the executive director of the center for arms control and nonproliferation, and jacob haldeman, editor of the national interest, one of the nation's leading journals on current and international affairs, is great to have you both here, john, let me, start with you and ask you, you know, just a simple question. you know, how many nukes has too many nukes in his america beyond where it should be? well, some of us will tell you that any new committee do, given the danger that they present human, kind on that. but let's assume that people are still in the mindset of the parents wanting to have enough nuclear weapons so that anybody else who would use them or has them would not use them against them for fear of being wiped out themselves. in that case, you know, in 2013, the military command, united states, that we do have committed that 1050. both the united states and russia are allowed to have under the new stock re, is about higher than we actually need even for the parents purpose. so putting the rest of the military on