>> john tisch. he's in the middle. >> aww. he's a sweetheart of a guy. >> there's his wife, lizzie, and mason their daughter and my mom and jen. he regaled me with the story of your chance meeting. it wasn't really a chance meeting. he wanted to date you badly. >> i don't know about that. all i know is there were two people, when i was working with frank on "good morning america," two gentlemen that said, kathie, i have a friend, they called, they said do you know that kathie lee johnson? frank said, yeah, we're friends, we work together. both said can you set me up? i never did blind dates and i still don't. but anyway -- and i just never felt comfortable with those sort of things. both times i said to frank i'll go if you go. one was tim mara, whose family owned the giants since the beginning, and the other was john tisch, both men of great substance and great personality and wonderful. but i guess -- and john i liked a lot. but because frank was there and frank i was comfortable with, i yakked with frank the entire time. i