. >>> former secret service deputy assistant director john tomly son joins us here. i'm struck by the back and forth going on in the hearing and the implication that the budget was limited, but congress felt she had a big budget. where does the truth lie in this? >> i can't speak to the budget. i can tell you that the event of 2013... >> sequestration. >> with the sequestration, impacted a range of government agencies, the secret service among them. in that same hearing one of the congress men laid out the end of the training, for the employees - uniform and agent division. it had a significant impact on high-end training. you know, it - just to the casual observer, you would see that there was significant cutback. >> do you think the director delivered that message well, made the case well for the limitation, what is happening with the service right now? >> she was doing her best with what the administration and the congress approved for the secret service, just as they have done with every federal agency, secret service among them. >> the notion of people make mist