so nobody mourns john tyler today. but what we actually ought to appreciate, john tyler for is defining the modern vice presidency in the sense that he was the first one to become president from that slot. nobody knew what that meant. shouldn't we call him? people said the acting president. acting president tyler, and maybe in fact, the cabinet should really be running things because they were selected by william henry harrison and tyler can just be a figurehead as the acting for the next almost four years. but tyler actually saw a head and realized that wasn't a good thing, and he refused to call himself acting president. he refused to let anybody else run the government. he said, no, if i'm president, i'm president. full stop, period altogether. and because of that, we now have a much different conception of the succession to the presidency. imagine if we had acting presidents who didn't really have full authority in the eight times we have had a president die in office. that would be unthinkable. it was not very goo

tyler is lock in. there's a whole genre there probably goes to john or is i was playing with. and when i went to united artist to say, i want to do this movie and really they said, okay, we'll give you the 10 grand to write the script. do you have any other movies which is about studios? do they want to hook you up for the rest of your life if you go there? so i said, well, you know, i got this idea for a kind of a, maybe a space adventure because i sort of picked that one out of the 2 that i wanted to do. and they said okay, what we can do for that too. so i have 2 picture deal, one i got to do from or cd, but of course when i took american city to them, they said no, we don't want that. and so married then i finished american graffiti. and then before it came out because was sitting followed at the studio, nobody wanted to have it into is it never to her? it was terrible. i said, well, i wanna do star wars now there's a no, no, no, we don't wanna do that. now. i said, okay, so then i had to take it to universal because they have the next, the fault pictures i had and i told

adventure film in period, which was like bonbons, while the navy or tim tyler is lock in, there's a whole genre there probably goes to john or is i was playing with. and when i went to united artist to say, i want to do this movie and really they said, okay, we'll give you the 10 grand to write the script. do you have any other movies which is about studios? do they want to hook you up for the rest of your life? so if you go, i'm in front of shop around this little science fiction more for space fantasy kind of thing, soap opera and they said air space oper. and he said, okay, well, i'll do it. so that's how i got that deal and explain the story to him. is it? look, i don't understand what you're talking about, but i think you're telling a guy and i'll do it. the o art is based on technology. that's the whole point of art. it's just something that man does, which is it just the same as if you're drawing a cave paintings of pedal and you're doing some black charcoal and suddenly somebody gives you some orange circle. somebody, a black and orange struggle and it just completely doubles your ability to tell stories. all arti

i want to bring it msnbc contributor brian tyler: and former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain. were not talking one or two small changes. the president is revamping his policy portfolio and will refer to trump is a convicted felon and he sitting for interviews beyond traditional media. you to sit down with vice president harris. what do you make of these changes? >> i think it is smart. reach people where they are. people are getting their news from less traditional outlets and people are watching the news less frequently anyway and people are checking out. it's smart to reach these people where they are and find them where they are not paying attention to the more traditional issues. the biden campaign recognizes whatever it has to do as we head toward crunch time. >> this is not just about his base. it's nikki haley voters, independence, and never trumper's. the people who could make or break the election which is currently by a lot of polls in a dead heat while press -- former president trump is not looking beyond his base. will this work for biden? >> well, yeah, he

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a book project, which was john brennan, who had just wrapped up the better part of a decade at that point as the cialand security gave an■@ interview, ac journalist named, tyler, where he, in essence in, incredibly tortured syntax. there's stuff out there we don't what it is it us and it may ripper isn't a phenomenon that some might say might constitute a new form of life. and that's an incredibly statement for someone like john brennan to make. i had covered john brennan. i've interviewed brennan he's about as serious a national security establishment person as as you can get and i figured there can't be that many things that puzzle old john brennan like when he woke up in the irector and white house homeland advisor. if he had a question, we have a $60 billion a year intelligence apparatus that went out and tried to answer his questions. and, you know, there are spies and analysts and operators and satellite surveillance networks and signals intelligence intercepts, answering whatever random questions john brennan wakes up in the morning with. and so if he is leaving office white house homeland security advisor and and cia director and he says, man, this uf

about baseball, and i'm sure john said again, there's probably not think has had just a little bit is just the idea that baseball is something that's almost forever. it's tyler'sn terms of its place. so even though the athletes have gotten bigger and there are extraordinary on the field, and we'll see some of that play out today. the stuff that willie mays did at such a young age or something that will stand forever. and that's why you start hearing about the greatest of all time. let's not forget that he gave two years of his life to military service. he was a veteran and that paused is baseball career. so how many more home runs good have had this man really meant something to this community. in particular, birmingham. we talked to the mayor yesterday. it was all about what he could do and not what he couldn't do. so by being denied some of the rights that all of us enjoy today. he never found that as an excuse. he just kept pushing for it and he pushed for it to be one of the greatest of all time, sir. >> brian, not just an extraordinary baseball player, but an extraordinary human being. thank you so much. and you're going to have a good time. bring me back

tyler, really appreciate you taking the time. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >>> i want to bring in brendan buck, former aide to republican house speakers john boehner paul ryan, also an msnbc political analyst. good to see you, brendan. what do you make of what we just heard there? do you think this contrast between biden and trump with the focus on trump as a convicted felon is the right strategy for the president's campaign? >> to a point i think they're on to something there. i think the point about donald trump being out for himself and jiepd potentially being more focused on working for you is a pretty good message, messages that tend to resonate are ones that people see as true. what i'm concerned about is i think people already understand that donald trump is a bad guy ethically, that he has questionable character and integrity. i think that's sort of baked in. the pivot to who you're actually working for i think is helpful. all that to say, unless they figure out a better economic message, none of that is sufficient. joe biden is not going to get re-elected by talking about the great things he did for the economy. i'm sorry, that would be n