here, it wasn't easy but the graduates of harvard rallied around and now we have a magnificent john updike collection, both his books and his manuscripts and i could go on and on. >> is there funding in perpetuity, are there some endowments -- >> it's very complex, but some owners create endowments and the income from those endowments keep it going, so we depend on gifts and we also have regular endowments and we have a magnificent staff in houghton which is cataloging works and taking good care of them, and even teaching. i mean, i teach a course and some of the students are here, they know that these houghton librarians can teach you a lot, so we are trying to make the most of this talent that we have in the library in all respects. >> i have a question about efemora. the bohemians have a piece of 18t18th century efemora. how does a library go about key siding what's not -- what's preservable and sort of the question of updike's manuscripts, writers don't do manuscripts anymore, so the process is gone. do you get an e-mail archive or something like that? most e-mail has disappeared. the