why john urlichmann? >> from a mental perspective he was a lawyer in seattle, he was a land use attorney so he had sort of a visceral interest in grounding in environmental issues that nixon just didn't have so he bought a certain expertise he was able to apply, cared about the stuff far more than nixon did. >> i think the other part of that is a version of he was there at the time and nixon trusted him. at the beginning of the nixon administration there were the two ideologically contentious advisers of arthur burns who was about to go off to another appointment and daniel patrick moynihan to handle the urban affairs council. and the continual disputes among those two people, that wasn't the way he wanted to have a prowse run and also didn't care that much personally about domestic policy. one thing john ulichmann was a good negotiator and facilitator. he was willing to take over the job of assembling task forces in order to try to address a range of environment issues. that then turns into the creation

so why john urlichmann. not exactly a policy wonk. a seattle attorney. not that well connected. why john erlichmann? >> would any of you like to address that? >> he was a lawyer in seattle. a land use attorney. he has a vis rel interest in grounding and environmental issues that nixon just didn't have. he brought a certain expertise that he was able to apply. he actually cared about the stuff far more than nixon did. >> i think the other part of that is a version of he was there at the time and nixon trusted him. remember, at the beginning of the nixon administration there were the two idealogically contentious advisers of arthur byrnes who was about to go off to another appointment and daniel patrick moynahan to handle the urban affairs council. nixon after a time got quite exhausted, if you will, by the continual disputes among those two people. that wasn't the way he wanted to have a white house run. he also didn't care that much personally about domestic policy. one thing john erhlichman was very good at, he was a good negotiator and facilitator. he was willing then to take o