and they are very good at john w. hill, who's like the guy who created the tobacco industry's science denial campaign. he was working for the american petroleum institute and texaco at the same time. you see these techniques show up later and you're like, well, yeah, because they're all working for multiple industries at the same time. and they definitely share information. oil and gas companies helped invent a lot of modern advertising. they've always been so good at best. they're really good at this. i never really saw myself working for an energy company that the more learned the more motivated i came to make a difference. and i think that white people really need to start doing is really questioning what's behind the messaging. we know we really need to stop using fuel as soon as possible and any solutions that don't get us closer to that. and they are not real climate solutions. it doesn't matter how many buzzwords you put on it . if you're putting emissions into the planet, it's not a climate solution. mm. and finall