and it was really john wallach -- back to john wallach -- who got me involved in this. i had agreed to give a new marketing direction for the eisenhower institute when john approached me at a party and said, i want you to be involved in a project i'm doing in the soviet union. and i said, i think it'd be better if the institute does it. it's more appropriate. he said, well, whatever it is, i can guarantee you that it'll change your life. well, whenever i'd see john we'd have a laugh about that because that may be one of the most prophetic things he's ever said. but certainly, once i took that two-year position at the institute, and then i started traveling in the soviet union, i read avidly about the eisenhower record there because, first of all, one thing i didn't want to do was to disgrace myself in any fashion. i certainly didn't want to darken my grandfather's name, which, after all, was his. i mean, it's mine, too, but he was the one who gave it the luster that it has. c-span: have you always kept the name? >> guest: yes. well, not -- not during my marriage, no. i d