john wayne, a great american. john wayne, she was partly right, it's the home of john wayne gacy. not john wayne the duke.'s the difference. as a person who loves the great gaffe, granted it would be the ruin of the free world as we know it. elizabeth warren, i love her. and i'm sorry, do you know what her -- you remember what her first bill was? trying to get the fed to basically give the same rate for student loans, a generation, that's a trillion dollars in debt. point 75. they were looking to raise the stafford loans to 9.75. and her very first bill. >> there's a lot of -- there's a lot of people who are disappointed when they heard warren say that last week, no means no. there's no wiggle room there. let's get back to bachman for a moment. do you think there's anyway we could motivate sarah palin and michele bachmann and orchestrate this to have that be the super ticket? >> again, this is terrible. the american in me says no. but the media person says, imagine this, a debate. a debate. i guarantee you, vince mcmahon, wwe, the birth of little ricky, the end of m.a.s.h., nothing in television history c