and the negotiations broke down because john weaver thinks that john kasich will have a better chance of being president by not disappointing donald trump. guess what? [inaudible] >> and that's a dumb, dumb, dumb thing. [inaudible question] >> we said ok, you don't want to be with us. we'll take care of the party in ohio. you want to hurt it, we'll make sure rob portman gets re-elected and we'll win ohio. >> there is no backing off on either side. john weaver, kasich's political advisor went after manaforth on a personal basis and what is it for mana fort to go after them and what is their interest? >> i find it more genuine than like the pence pick where i want party unity. trump all along said i don't care about party unity, i'm rebuilding the republican party at our image and i can win without you and if you don't want to be with me, screw you. that's manafort's attitude towards kasich. and i think kasich has genuine profound problems with trump and also i think wants to be president in 2020 >> manafort said we're working with portman in running for re-election and don't need kasic

mark: john weaver, kasich's political advisor, went after manafort on a personal basis and what is itor manafort to go after them and what is their interest? john: i find it more genuine than like the pence pick where i want party unity. trump all along said i don't care about party unity, i'm rebuilding the republican party at our image and i can win without you and if you don't want to be with me, screw you. that's manafort's attitude towards kasich. his political analysis -- and i think kasich has genuine , profound problems with trump and also i think wants to be president in 2020. he's making a political calculation. mark: manafort said we're working with portman in running for re-election and don't need kasich's operation. he's been elected twice and beat trump in the primaries and seems like they'd like him on board but kasich says he's not interested in supporting trump. john: can you see portman running alongside trump? mark: not impossible. john we'll see. : we'll be interested. finally, mark halperin, he asked paul manafort to weigh in that hillary clinton is engaging in to

was an argument between paul manafort, the chairman of the trump campaign, and kasich strategist john weaverweaver, that broke out today. paul manafort said kasich was embarrassing his state. shot back, hanging around with dictators, once represented viktor yanukovych, i don't see how that helps donald trump at all. on the other hand, donald trump hasn't shown impulse control. in unveiling of his running mate he made a show talking about how he crushed the rebellion from never trump forces. that is not a prescription for unifying the party. >> david, how much does this dissent within the party matter in a year when so much of the primary voter interest seems to be in tamping down the establishment? i mean, do people really care if these folks show up or not? does it matter down the line when it comes time to organize forces locally? what do you think? >> absolutely. one of the things that trump said last night was he picked my pence in order to unify the party. we were not supporters of trump. we endorsed ted cruz and thought donald trump was a liberal most of his life, but he's running as a

and john weaver in which don sr. said they were interesting on having john kasich on board for vp. this would be a prominent role. he could be in charge of domestic policy and foreign policy. this set off a number of conversations between the two camps. and ended up with donald trump on the phone actually with john kasich. we're told they did not directly discuss the vp slot there but it was more of a discussion how the how they have different approaches to things. we saw kasich elaborate that in past speeches. that's was sent to paul manafort afterwards. at that point it became clear that john kasich was not interested in this position. it was essentially going to be a non-starter. we know kasich of course has been critical of donald trump. of his campaign. he is not appearing at the convention. this is all coming out at a time when there is a very nasty feud playing out between the trump camp as well as the kasich camp. we saw paul manafort earlier this week saying john kasich is embarrassing his state by not appearing here at the rnc. that has not set well with kasich and allies

. >> john weaver, kasich's aid called this a clown show in a tweet and manafort also told us in anotherrview that it's almost an advantage, he said, he's actually not unhappy that the bushes aren't here because it's an advantage as a change candidate for donald trump to not have the establishment leaders of the party, former president's bush here. >> i'm not sure i would put it that way, but i get his point. there is truth to the point, i think hillary clinton's greatest problem is that she's running for a third term for the president. he is a change candidate, mr. trump, in a period where you want change. you want difference, and you don't want, you know, all of the establishment in lock step necessarily. so it may well work to his advantage. >> tom cole who knows mike pence really well, thank you so much for being with us. thank you. >>> and coming up, the state of race relations in america, why the violence against police in baton rouge and dallas now looming large over the republican convention here in cleveland. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. ♪ if you have

. >> this is a tweet sent out by john weaver. hell, speeches like this are a dime a dozen. >> is that the john weaver that elected senator mccain? i'm just curious. >> i left the mccain campaign before mccain wouldn't the fom nation. >> i want to make a point about -- >> david. >> i want to make a point on immigration. and you'll know this, john, because you're fluent in this. in every exit poll, what struck me was even in the republican primary, republicans were not really -- they were not really warming up to trump's immigration position. i said before, i thought he scored with the trade position and he may have touched some people with that. but there was not great enthusiasm for the wall, there was not great enthusiasm for the deportation. and he's doubled down on it tonight. and i'm not sure that helps him at all. >> it played in this room. you heard them chanting, build the wall, build the wall, build the wall. you also heard them locker up. >> it was interesting when they were chanting locker up, he was basically -- with l

governor, to be on donald trump's ticket, that don jr., trump's son, even went so far as to call john weaver john kasich, to say, well what if he would be in charge of all domestic and foreign policy? which is -- everything. kind of what the president does. and we were told by kasich sources that the answer was, kind of, are you kidding me? they kind of couldn't believe that that was the offer but never took it seriously or any other overture that they got. but we can tell you this in the context, i started by talking about the disagreement, the context of the fact that kasich has not only not endorsed trump, he is refusing to come inside this hall in the convention of his own party in his own state and the back-and-forth has gotten so intense that donald trump just put out a tweet, i'll read it to you in response to it story. john kasich was never asked by me to be vp. just arrived in cleveland. will be a great two days. so the fact that he feels the need to respond just shows how the animus and animosity that is going on between the two of them that is now playing out in public, in the pre

they feel disrespected, the reason it resonated, and i'm going to quote a republican strategist, john weaverwho ran the kasich campaign. i will take the america of mr. kahn over donald trump's divisive vision of donald trump everyday. it is an inclusion where ever -- no, no, let's deal with total reality here, people. there is not enough respect for the full diversity of the united states, and the vision of donald trump. for -- which is expressed in the muslim ban and you can say it is regional, but we all know what it is reacting to. if this family feels unwelcome, their constitutional rights are not being respected by the republican nominee, that's a problem, that they need to recognize and own and address. >> carol, i'm going to -- >> i want to let robert zimmerman here, because he is the clinton supporter on the panel. he should have his fair say. >> i am a clinton supporter, but most of all, i am a proud american. and the kahn family spoke about the tragic loss they suffered, it is a story that all americans can respect, and relate to and feel. it rises above partisanship. i think what

just a few minutes ago on twitter, john weaver, the political strategist for ohio governor kasich shotk that paul manafort has been working for dictators too long and doesn't recognize values. paul manafort used to advise the ukrainian ruler victor yan covick. >> nice owe quicken loans arena. thanks for that. for more we're joined by contributors jared bernstein former adviser to vice president biden and sara fangen, former political director to president bush. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> sara, john made the point about your old boss along with kasich, romney, mccain not going. how does that change the color of the convention? >> well, i think that it does add to the disunity that we see among some republicans. there are a lot of old-line republicans who look at the party today and say it's a different party under donald trump and they're not quite sure where they fit in. having said that, there are a lot of rising republican stars including joanie ernst who will speak tonight. i hope the trump campaign will highlight the deep and conservative bench we have as a party

dominateted this would the whole convention -- john: as jeff weaver pointed out the other night. mark: i still have the sense that there will be a last gasp here that will represent a discordant note. in the end, bernie sanders will play some sort of role in the nominating process. he said this morning he would not be surprised if she got nominated by acclamation as he adds his voice to that and the room is largely pro-clinton, which i think they will be because it is an historic moment, yesterday morning and midday afternoon discord will be a distant memory. john: one of the things of the convention is you never really know what is going on at some level. we report like crazy -- mark: hard to imagine there are 48,000 reporters in the building and there is still uncertainty. john: we have now had it reported that the vermont delegation will push hillary clinton over the top, at sanders ' instructions. will he put her name into the nomination? i don't know what is actually going to play out. ink: bernie and jane sanders the hall and every time sander'' name is mentioned, there is

when you talk to john weaver, governor kasich campaign strategist, he says it is a clown car show.e calls the trump people metalheads. .- knuckleheads justcompetitiveness, but of stupid tactics he said not just the swing state but the host state. governoronize the city ? darrel rowland, public affairs editor, thanks for joining us. back to your phone calls. fred in ohio, independent. caller: hello. how are you. think abouto you the convention in your home state? caller: i had a few things to say. i was listening to the editor from the columbus paper while i was on hold but look. has won more votes than any other republican candidate in history with a field of 17 opponents during this campaign. suppose there had only been four. how many would mr. trump have gotten? yet we have primates -- crybabies screaming. mr. trump won by a huge margin. for the record, i am a christian and a member of the church in this area and i have to tell you that i would say about at this i amt, the reports getting, the number of christians across this country that are now going to support 84%,rump are app

weaver. >> from an immersive version of the thriller john wick to a meditation app. >> allow your body and mind to drift. >> it looks like you're having a wonderful time in there. >> and the vr camera promises to drop people into the mystery series gone. >> anthony bat is the cofounder of weaver. >> so what is this? >> this is our camera system. >> kind of locks like a site survey. >> it sort of does but it's not. >> it's a modified gopro camera. you are being seen in every direction. >> really? even when i'm in the corner. >> well, you might be in two cameras now. >> virtual reality is the next -- fill in the blank. >> big thing. i think vr is the next big internet. the consumers are going to start getting it by 2016 but by 2020 people are going to have the head sets and want to see new big moments. take weddings. if you're there your standing there and everyone is getting photos but with vr you can actually literally be in the wedding and rewatch it. >> so i'm getting married this fall. >> and we should film your wedding. >> you're telling me 60 year old me is going to be able to watch m

they are particularly concerned about terrorism, lace to the weavers and fishing john where are there are some external organizations that claim to be trying to stimulate resistance or separatist forces in the area. clearly if there was a linkage emerged between isis and weaker terrorism in chen-chang, the chinese would treat this as a top priority issue. there is cooperation and intelligence exchange among countries that are concerned about this type of terrorism. and i think china is part of that process. i don't expect that china would become interventionist on those issues because of its concern over the side of terrorism they would probably step up cooperation with countries that were in a position to uncover intelligence that would be useful to china in dealing with any potential internal threats that were connected to that. but china tends to be critical of intervention in other countries and issues and while china is getting a lot of attention to try to strengthen its ties in the middle east, it is not yet in a position of wanting to actually commit chinese forces to interveni

john: if you really want to make people think he is for her, jeff weaver, actually raise the flag.ou for coming. mark: when we come back, our conversation with senator bob casey. ♪ ♪ our next guest uses -- used to his convention speech last night to welcome a democratic candidate. senator, thank you for joining us. bob: great to be with you guys. mark: if i put you in a room with 12 sanders supporters, not a diehard ones but still unhappy, what would you say? senator casey: i would focus on the middle class. at theng hillary said beginning of her campaign as you put it on her website, defining, and i am paraphrasing, defining economic challenges raising , income for hard-working americans, i think that is the place with a lot of unity, and i think it was the focus of hillary's campaign and bernie's as well. it is an economic message. john: by the time of this rollcall, will we have actual unity, or the perception of unity? bob: we will be be well on the way the unity but there will be work after this. i do not think unity occurs at a magic moment in the convention. it will take som

john: the city of brotherly love is sweltering, humidity over 100%. we will talk about the hot mess of convention roll, with the bernie sanders campaign manager, jeff weaverng by. said the sanders people will be for hillary clinton. at this convention, are these guys under bernie sanders' control, your control? anybody'sdy is under control. we are going to come out and beat donald trump and elect hillary clinton and go forward. ofk: there has been a lot bernie and hillary. with your people, we know you cannot control them, but what can you do to help? hope they will act respectfully. we have sent e-mails and texts. : but they have not so far paid this is disruptive as far as what the clinton team would like. jeff: i have not been on the floor. mark: they are chanting, "bernie." jeff: i think at the convention goes on, as people get more into the spirit of unity, i think you will see a change in tone. john: mark? don't, not based on what i see so far. now: has the movement broken out of the barn door? it is not with a leader anymore. this movement has a life force of its own? jeff: it always has. bernie sanders did not create this movement. he did galvaniz

weaver. they hope to be the netflix of v.r. generating a variety of content. from an immersing version of the killer john laughter ] [ gunshots ]. >> to a meditation app. >> allow your body and mind to drift. >> still in development. >> like you're having a wonderful time in there. >> i feel so relaxed. >> and a custom build v.r. camera promises to drop viewers into the mystery series gone. >> she's way too smart to be taken by a stranger. >> anthony bad is the co-founder of weaver. >> what is this? >> our v.r. camera system. >> looks like a sight survey. >> it sort of does but not. the modified go pros with 180 degree lenses on them. you're being seen in every direction. >> really? even when i'm in the corner? >> yes. you might be in two cameras there. here you're in one. >> fill in the blank. virtual reality is the next -- >> big thing. [ laughter ] >> i think v.r. is the next big internet meaning consumers will get it in 2016 but by 2020 many millions of people have head sets and there will be one to see new v.r. experiences. >> take a wedding for example. if you're in the wedding standing up there ge

. ♪ e john: with us now from washington to talk about what is going to happen between bernie sanders and hillary clinton tomorrow in new hampshire is jeff weaverie sanders' esteemed campaign manager. jeff we know there is an event , in new hampshire tomorrow. bernie sanders and hillary clinton are going to be there. everyone assumes this is the endorsement. is that correct? don't want to preview too much, but they will be there together in new hampshire talking about the need to go , forward to win the white house. john: all the reporting suggests an endorsement is forthcoming is incorrect? jeff: i am not confirming an endorsement tomorrow. we will put it that way. john: that's fair. if there was an endorsement tomorrow, just explain what the ark of that has been. what brought bernie sanders to the point that he is at minimum willing to do a unity event and more likely to confer her with his endorsement. what has changed? jeff: i think there has been a tremendous amount of communication about the primary and caucus system. i think it was largely focused thate substantive issues were the focus of the sanders campaign. i think he's on recently t