i want to start with john weisheit. when people hear tar sands, they think alberta, canada.y oil or is there paul ryan, they think jobs. but talk about why you're talking in moab. >> this particular locality is in a high elevation of a plateau, one of the last wild places in utah. it is a huge refuge for elk and deer, and a bit of a watershed. it would also affect the white river and green river. this is an inappropriate activity. people are not aware that utah has a lot of tar sands exposed at the surface, easy to get to. this would be a strip mining project. it would completely due forced this plateau, annihilate the vegetation for these animals. once they're done, there would never have any beneficial use whatsoever besides destroy in the watershed. >> where do these tar sands come from? >> the colorado river was a system that did not make to the ocean and used to be a lake. it drained internally. algae and organic materials provided hydrocarbons. >> i want to turn to a clip from a cbs report on the tartheh tar sands project. according to earth energy resources, there's n