his name is john wesley rice senior and he was a sharecropper son. they share -- they worked others' land in utah. that is in alabama. and when john wesley rice senior was about 19 years old, he decided that he wanted to get bookwriting and in college. so he asked people coming through how a colored man could get educated. and they told him about little stillman college which was in tuscaloosa presbytery school. so he went off to college. in his first year lake ray. and after his first year, they said so how are you going to pay for her second year? he said one of cotton. they said you're out of luck. he said the hobbit those boys go to college? they said they want to be presbyterian ministers, said they have what's called a scholarship. and my grandfather said you know, that's exactly what i wanted to be, too. that's what i had in mind. [laughter] and my family has been presbyterian and college-educated ever since. [laughter] so they were very industrious people, but also a little bit ingenious in finding a way to education. >> into the republican pa

his name was john wesley rice, senior, and he was a sharecropper's son but they worked other land in utah, that is -- he decided he wanted to get book learning in college so he asked people coming for what colored man could get educated and they told him about a college in tuscaloosa. so he saved us and went to college. his first year went great and after the first year they said how are you going to pay for your second year and he's about as cotton and he said well you were out of luck. hauer those boys coming to college? he said you see they want to be presbyterian ministers, so they have work called a scholarship and my grandfather said you know, that's exactly what i wanted to become a too. that's exactly what i had in mind. [laughter] and my family had been presbyterian and college-educated ever since. [laughter] they were very industrious people but also ingenious to finding ways to education. >> and the republican party -- the party of lincoln i can't quite say that it stayed that way -- >> we are pretty much a republican. >> except for me. >> except for rebuke. [laughter] >>