i'm here for san diego county and the sheriff and john whitesides for yolo county and the sheriff there. i'm authorized to confirm that the sheriff has he previously advised the court has not changed his policies. or procedures for the issuance of concealed weapons permits pending further guidance from the court. beyond that he's here to answer any questions for san diego or sheriff gore otherwise san diego has graciously ceded its argument time to the state. >> where were you when we argued this case before? the sheriff now isn't going ahead. and we questioned at that particular time, we said does the state know about this, oh, yes they know about that. we had all the discussions about whether, you know, it implicated a statutory scheme and the state sat on its hands and lost and here you are are. so suddenly, why should we let you intervene at this point? >> well, first of all we appreciate the ability to be here today. >> we would like to have heard from you before. >> whether we're permitted to intervene or not. and we appreciate that -- indullgence from the court. we think we shoul