and the other very interesting article by john wildermuth, very excellent journal on the housing wars, key to city's diversity, that's the title of it. he does talk a little bit the years of protest. it's well written, but a little self-laudatory in that we have a lot of problems, still a city which once had a huge middle class and had lots of families with children and had some of the highest sale prices of anyplace. we have to differentiate. i think these things he mentioned have done a lot of good things, stopping free ways from chopping up the city, shopping another western addition destruction as happened in the '60s, but there also is a price that sometimes -- some of these things have perhaps been carried to extremes and they have added into higher prices and more process, and some of the woes we have today. so, there's always a happy medium. but i thought it was an interesting article and i would urge you to take a look at it if you haven't already. thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> we had an item on our consent calendar which raises an issue which i could not discuss in th