votes to john wolff.ave a number of states the president shown he has struggled with moderate democrats or independent voters. bill: what does that tell you about november? i mean everybody is sitting around 4 1/2 months away and trying to forecast this. so if you have got trouble in kentucky and west virgina arguably not going to go for a democratic president anyway, is there more trouble that lies beneath that? >> well, this goes to the conversation you were having with martha about the bus tour. it is very interesting, if you start to see president obama struggle further with white working class voters in the rust belt states in the upper midwest, that suggests deeper problems. one thing to look for, and we saw this in 2010 to a certain extent, prominent democrats who seem to be running away from the president or don't want to be seen campaigning with him. heidi high camp running for senate in north dakota cutting a ad that distances herself from obamacare despite the fact she supported it before. reme

from the nation's capital we are delighted to have with us msnbc political analyst richard wolffe. johnsion about the planned dine with the donald and romney event. we understand that romney's now postponed that n that. i mean, does come any feel on the day such anna december identification health care reform comes down he rather not be with a clan like the donald. >> well, when you put it like that probably not. but -- look, i think the haven't u at the pierre hotel, the penthouse which, you know, full disclosure i have been on to on a couple of occasions is spectacular. >> mix with and expect nothing less. >> i'm here to report. it is a spectacular venue. i'm sure the owner is wildly wealthy. would have to be. and as a romney supporter. why donald trump would say yes he would do a dine with the donald event and then not go through with it, it could be that the romney campaign does want to be seen with him and could be they thought better of it which would have been -- which would be great. and maybe this portends, you know, maybe the disappearance of the donald from mitt romney's. >>

wolff? >> there's a wonderful book thaw may have red by john gertner that came out this year and it was engineers and basic scientists driven by the need to have manufacturing outcomes including ultimately the transistor which, of course, gave birth to through bob noyste and others to the integrated sir kit. so we don't have a bell labs today other than what doe and sematech can do. those are our current idea factories. >> senator murkowski? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i suggested in my opening that the united states was doing relatively well in this raie ra. mr. scissors, you are ahead. i guess the question to you would be whether or not it's -- it is constructive to even talk about this being a race for the clean energy title. is it fair? is it constructive to say that we are in a race? and then if it is so, if it is appropriate to refer to this as some kind of a competition, which everyone has used that word and we all recognize that words matter here. if this is a competition, what's the metric that we use? how do we judge who is winning and who is losing? is it a question of how much money h

wolffe. politico executive editor, jim vandehei, melinda hennenberg and john chait.nd he has so far made nine stops in four states. but is every town really counting? their campaign is having a hard time getting out of the shadow of president obama's announcement on immigration. in wisconsin this morning, romney spoke alongside congressman paul ryan, and governor scott walker. he said the president is creating distractions to hide his record. >> because of his failed record, his campaign's having a hard time deciding what to talk about, because they'd like to talk about the economy and they'd like to talk about his record, but you know, they know the last time his campaign slogan was hope and change. this time they're going with we hope to change the subject. >> it is not often that we get jim vandehei in the flesh and not on a remote cam in the politico offices. it's a

wolffe. politico executive editor, jim vandehei, melinda hennenberg and john chait. this is day four of the every town counts romney bus tour and he has so far made nine stops in four states. but is every town really counting? their campaign is having a hard time getting out of the shadow of president obama's announcement on immigration. in wisconsin this morning, romney spoke alongside congressman paul ryan, and governor scott walker. he said the president is creating distractions to hide his record. >> because of his failed record, his campaign's having a hard time deciding what to talk about, because they'd like to talk about the economy and they'd like to talk about his record, but you know, they know the last time his campaign slogan was hope and change. this time they're going with we hope to change the subject. >> it is not often that we get jim vandehei in the flesh and not on a remote cam in the politico offices. it's a great day in america. i will go to you first with this. the immigration announcement seemed to have knocked team romney off course. what do

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