john wonderlich?ometimes explaining which you got is enough because you discover something scandalous. in california, some of the public servants were getting paid $600,000 a year or something ludicrous for a city employee, and those revelations were enough to cause enormous changes happen quickly. sometimes what you find out is a lot more tricky and complicated. the question is, how do cause a change in a democratic society? sometimes it is really hard, is the answer. but in order for us that popular sovereignty, it is the fourth of july and the idea is where the have self-determination. the first up is understanding what your government is doing. host: flint, michigan, independent line. caller: good morning. i applied for my own individual freedom of information act and i was denied. excuse me, i did not follow up. host: what information we looking for and who did you ask the information? caller: i used the request form and i got the number they give you and everything. it took them about eight mont

later, a look at the freedom of information act with john wonderlich. and steve redisch talks about his organization's goals. >> bartow least trip makes -- he spoke with a lot of people and explore the countryside and he wanted to understand what makes americans stick. and he was surprised by a lot of things that he saw. he had read that americans were individualistic and he actually saw us as much more collectivist. it seems kind of hard for us to imagine that, but he saw the united states as a group of people who like to form associations, who wanted to always be with other people. he saw of the french, after you went to the united states, he saw the french as the individualists and the americans as the more social people. from that, he concluded that he would put up this colossal statue and it would have to say something to people who understand -- who understood themselves as a big group, as a society, as a kind of collective entity. >> you can watch this whole event as part of our july 4 prime time. it also includes a discussion on how social media