rosen: john xxiii, who many people saw as quite a simple guy -- he brought about what's called the secondd one of the profound areas of focus of the second vatican council was its relationship with the jews. coming out of this second vatican council was a document called nostra aetate, meaning "in our times." and this document is a revolutionary document. and basically what this document says is any attempt to try to present the jews as cursed or rejected by god is illegitimate from a christian point of view. it's not what christianity teaches. and that the covenant between god and the jewish people is an eternal covenant, never broken, never to be broken, quoting paul in support of this position. and for the first time, the catholic church, in this document, publicly condemned anti-semitism, regardless of where it may come from. martin luther in his old age wrote some of the most despicable anti-jewish pamphlets that have ever been written. and that's painful for a lutheran to read that stuff. so that, for example, in the united states a couple of years ago, there was an official stateme

rosen: john xxiii, who many people saw as quite a simple guy -- he brought about what's called the secondd one of the profound areas of focus of the second vatican council was its relationship with the jews. coming out of this second vatican council was a document called nostra aetate, meaning "in our times." and this document is a revolutionary document. and basically what this document says is any attempt to try to present the jews as cursed or rejected by god is illegitimate from a christian point of view. it's not what christianity teaches. and that the covenant between god and the jewish people is an eternal covenant, never broken, never to be broken, quoting paul in support of this position. and for the first time, the catholic church, in this document, publicly condemned anti-semitism, regardless of where it may come from. martin luther in his old age wrote some of the most despicable anti-jewish pamphlets that have ever been written. and that's painful for a lutheran to read that stuff. so that, for example, in the united states a couple of years ago, there was an official stateme

he's a very smart man to be a combination of fdr, president eisenhower and pope john xxiii, a polish pope. i hope this happens and i hope you for the next election because i turn it off every time they talk about republican candidates. even chris mathews, my favorite show, outside a c-span of course, he is too much, you know, about all these dairy and the other run in spirit i'm bored with it already. i've been bored as before. why did it happen so fast? why can't we have it just about four months before the election? >> sheela, you're right the election season has really extended to what may be trying the american people's patience. we've seen so many debates with these republican primary candidates. i'm not sure but i think it would be an historic level of debate. i think that is actually running a big risk for republicans because the more they expose the extreme candidates, many of whom probably have no chance of being their nominees. >> why they expose those people to the rest of america, who maybe wasn't paying attention to what michele bachmann was saying before, but now has be

he to be a combination of fdr, eisenhower, and pope john xxiii. i turn it off every time they talk about republican candidates. even chris matthews, my favorite show, outside of c-span, of course, and he is all about perry. i'm bored. i've been bored. why is this continuing? why can we have this like four months before the election? guest: election season has really extended. it may be trying the american people's patience. we have seen so many debates with the interpublic and primary candidates and it would be a historical level of debates. i think that is running a big risk for republicans because the more they expose the extreme candidates, many of home probably have no chance of being their nominee, but the more they expose them to the rest of america who may be was not paying attention to michele bachmann before but now is on prime-time tv every other week, the more they run the risk of making them look incredibly extreme as a party. the more the associate themselves with the tea party, mitt romney has said the tea party in the republican par