and that would be john yoo.hn yoo wrote the infamous torture memo during the bush administration. the memo redefined what interrogators could do in order to allow them to commit what is widely understood and was understood before his memo as torture and just not call it torture. on trump tv, mr. yoo was asked about me calling him out and this was his response. >> i got to say, no one ever told me that one of the perks of being in the government would be being second guessed by some, you know, pip-squeak at msnbc years later. while this guy's probably in college, trying to pull all-nighters and get hot coffee at 1:00 a.m., the serious point is, you know, we were sending men and women to afghanistan, some of them to die, to stop a future terrorist attack. and i wanted to do my small part as a lawyer, was to make sure they had all the tools at their disposal within the law to stop the next attack. and that's what we did in the bush administration. and there were no other successful attacks. the obama administration

that was all the bravery john yoo show.the idea that stopping torture stopped attacks belies the fact while the u.s. was employing torture the u.s. troops and iraqi and afghan sisuh villains were talked time and time again at the cost of thousands and thousands of lives. finally on the idea this is some out there critique offered by some wild-eyed cable news host or a leftist or a liberal let's just go chapter and verse. there are dozens of ecparts pexperts who have written that it was wrong. this is not limited to liberals. here are just a few of the people who think what john yoo justified was wrong. senator lindsey graham, former military lawyer who told news week in 2006 when you say we won't use torture unless you think we really, really need it then -- and kwoelts, the world is beginning to doubt our moral basis for the war against terrorism. and senator john mccain who of course experienced this first-hand when he was tortured while a pow in vietnam who wrote in an op-ed quote, much of this debate is a definitional o

and john yoo. both served as deputy assistant attorney general under president george w. bush. great to see you both. john and tom, i want to start off with this. first of all, one of the presidential candidates on the democrat side representative eric swalwell, said russia attacked us, the new report details the multiplicity of contacts between russia and the president's team," and he goes on to use the words, "his team materially impaired the investigation." a few moments either before or after that, senator cory booker also running for president from one of the 18 or 20 of them -- the trump administration posted a pdf of the mueller report. it's with hard for you to read, to make it easy. here's a click. of course, everything takes you back to someone else's campaign. so we searched, materially. what did you find, tom? >> tom: if he had exited the next few sentences, it would have told us something a little different. what he is referring to are examples that have already been amply documented because they concern the prosecution that mueller's team has already brought. flynn

john yoo dodging through drum singles on his way to class. >> laura: john, your response. >> i didn't see that. thanks for bringing it to my attention. i got to say nobody told me that one of the perks of being in the government would being second guessed by some pipsqueak at msmbc. the serious point is, we're sending men and women to afghanistan, some to die, to stop a future terrorist attack. i wanted to do my small part as a lawyer, to make sure that they had the tools at their disposal to stop the next attack. that's what we did in the bush administration and there were no other successful attacks. the obama administration stopped these policies and we've had a litany of attacks. >> laura: they never want people to work again. they never want people to be able to work again. that is how desperate the left has become. i want conservatives to work in any field including universities. thank you both very much. up next, congresswoman ilhan omar. >> i'm just a normal person that got an awful skin condition. and you never know how your skin will look. because deep within your skin... ..

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that's all prosecutors do, and to john yoo's point, it's all that prosecutor should be doing under a long-standing department of justice policy. >> laura: i think all three of you and i are in agreement of that. fantastic analysis. chief correspondent ed gentry standing by with breaking your reaction from the 2020 democratic hopefuls. >> as you've been talking about, remember when democrats shifted from collusion to obstruction and in recent days it's been a charge of cover-up by attorney general william barr over reductions that now seem like silly argument since he didn't reject as much as they expected. now when they can prove any of those threes, you have beto o'rourke declaring tonight, even if there is no collusion, and might of been cooperation with russians where there is eric swalwell running for president despite the fact that he, like adam schiff, has been claiming for the better part of two years that there was evidence of collusion between the trump camp in russia. one might think that robert mueller's findings might lead to some self reflection. maybe some apologies. no

national security attorney bradley moss, john yoo and fox news contributor mollie hemingway. to be here. >> shannon: this is a little bit more than we get from that headline. if it says some members of mr. mueller's team are concerned that because mr. barr created a first narrative of the special counsel's findings, american viewers will have hardened before the investigation's conclusions become public. apparently they are talking to "the new york times." if somebody is in saying there's a lot of bad stuff in here for the president but we are worried now that barr's letter say no collusion will taint what people think about the report. >> told that the mueller probe never looks to anybody but somehow we get information from people affiliated with the probe. in this case the only thing that really matters as there were no indictments, that is already public because attorney general barr told us, but we would know if that weren't true. we would know if there were indictments coming. if there are no indictments coming. that is the most important thing for this probe that was ab

john yoo is a former assistant attorney general. how are you doing and welcome back to our program? on't know for sure. i think you could say there are three different kinds. he is probably referring to f.b.i. director comey. you recall he wrote these memos that had classified information and used a third person to leak them to the "new york times." that could be illegal leaking of classified information. a second he sounds like he is referring possibly to the matters that gave rise to the steele dossier and acquisition of a warrant use under the fisa law to try to surveil the trump campaign. if that was all done deliberately to mislead the court. if that was done to engage in illegal spying as attorney general barr suggested it might have, that would be a crime. the third one would be -- the toughest one to get a handle on, is whether there were efforts to lie or obstruct a congressional investigation that was he was running, which itself could be perjury, obstruction of justice if these f.b.i. agents and d.o.j. officials they were interviewing or covering up or destroy documents. t