and we're back with john young wolf former national security advisor to the president of south korea discussing they saw in the enter a korean relation and whether it's going to last a mask. your main thesis seem to be the north korea needs to nuclearize completely and immediately well i recently spoke to us former secretary of defense william perry who went on a historic was it to pyongyang in ninety nine and his diplomacy almost resulted in a deal back then but it fell apart soon afterwards well he told me it's now too late to make north korea get rid of their nuclear weapons and maybe it's time to recognize a new no new nuclear north korea and just live with it. well in my view desk very irresponsible of if he really said that i think it's very irresponsible. of him. whoa we know that north korea attaches great importance highest importance to nuclear armament and the only thing a very few more didn't do clear weapons this is survival so i would admit that is more difficult to denuclearize most quit now than when bill perry was a special envoy or defense secretary yes there is no

that we're back with john young wolf former national security advisor to the president of south korea discussing both saw in the enter a korean relation and whether it's going to last a massacre i'm your main thesis seem to be the north korea needs to do nuclear rise completely and immediately well i recently spoke to us former secretary of defense william perry who went on a historic was it to pyongyang in ninety nine and his diplomacy almost resulted in a deal back then but it fell apart so nuff towards well he told me it's now too late to make north korea get rid of their nuclear weapons and maybe it's it's time to recognize a new no new nuclear north korea and just live with it. well in my view desk very irresponsible of if he really said that i think it's very irresponsible. of him. whoa we know that north korea attaches great importance highest importance to nuclear armament and the only thing a very few more than nuclear weapons is their survival so i would admit that is more difficult to denuclearize most grenada than when bill perry was a special envoy or defense secretary ye

think the white house chief of staff, john kelly's comments today will exact all of these negotiations? >> it's another setback, wolf. you know, i think of a young man named jose in hayward, california, in my district. he told me a couple months ago that he's a dreamer. he wants to be a police officer. he's not lazy. he's afraid that he can't work as a police officer until his status is certain and it's known what he can be in our country. and so those are the people i think of. they're police officers, they're serving in our military. this is a disgraceful comment. >> let's turn to the russia investigation. you're on both the intelligence and judiciary committees. the president is being encouraged to refuse an interview with the special counsel, robert mueller, so he doesn't incriminate himself, potentially. what does that tell you? >> well, it's time for the president to come clean with the american people about what happened. and i remember a candidate for the presidency who said that only the mob invokes the fifth amendment. and if you don't have anything to hide, innocent people don't invoke the fifth amendment. he should follow his own adv