welcome john ziegler. we agree, that clip showed, as nicolle wallace says, it's like running against god. the media, we are in love. i have a tingle up my leg having you sit at my table. >> not sure how to take that. >> i'm between you guys. >> really. >> i'm for truth. i'm for honesty. >> part of the film is how obama got elected and palin was targeted. you essentially bought into the obama myth. >> no, i didn't. you didn't read my earlier columns. i was writing about him before anyone new who he was. i have never endorsed a candidate. >> read the column you wrote before the election. you didn't buy into the obama moderation myth. >> i did. >> you were duked by the media. >> i thought this is a guy talking not a red or blue america. >> you were duked. >> i was at the 2004 convention. >> were you duped? >> new york city i wasn't duped. i'm the interviewer here. >> i'm just watching. >> this is fun. i wrote critical things of him and i still write critical things of him. >> you endorsed him before the elect

before we get there, last night on the show john ziegler, an ultraconservative radio host claimed the liberal conspiratorial media destroyed sarah palin intentionally. they didn't like her. the funny thing is -- >> yeah, yeah, yeah. that was hilarious. >> -- it led to quite a ruckus on the show. let's take a look to see what happened last night. >> -- targeting of sarah palin. you essentially took part in the assassination of sarah palin 1.0. that person is dead. she doesn't exist anymore. >> actually, i did not take part in it. i led it. let's get our facts straight. >> you led the assassination. >> on september 26th, 2008 -- >> have the blood out of your clothes yet? >> i said she was out of her league and i have rested my case so many times i don't need to bring that up again. >> right. >> i will agree that some people in the media came after her in a vicious, cruel, and unfair way. i was not one of them. okay? >> okay. >> i'm not. >> as an alleged conservative who is the first -- >> did you come here to attack me or do you want an interview? >> i really truly want to understand ho