yes, women are -- johnbetter 20 something's than 15 something's. >> when it comes to child outcomes,s much better. not worlds better. john: and yet, celebrities get all this press coverage by saying i haven't found a good man, i'll find a kid on my own. charlize theron, sheryl crow. angelina jolie adopted first child as a single mother. madonna, single moms. they send a message this is just as good an option, and i assume their kids do okay. >> do the children of celebrities do okay? that depends what your baseline is here. we've been watching this breakdown of marriage over the last 30, 40 years, we've been watching kids go through life and see it over and over and over again, when you control for race, for the age of mother, for mother's income, education, all of that, two-parent household works better for a child. john: thank you, kay hymowitz. coming up, the controversy over living together before you're married. >>> plus plural marriage, one man, three women. . john: americans used to get married before they moved in together. when i was i college, most people did not live toget