commissioner johnck? >> commissioner johnck: well, well, i think my fellow commissioners have pretty much nailed it, but i did want to make a comment about commissioner matsuda's idea, and i think that you pegged the year 20000 or -- 2000 or 2002, and i think that the plaque should focus or go back and start with the 1950's, which is sort of a ways into dr. coleman's career, when i think it began, for present purposes for us to see fruition because it's so important in telling the history of san francisco to show how members of various community organizations were able to see a problem and do something to solve it. it's not only important for that reason, but it's important because who knows, some little kid may see that, and that would be the impetus for doing a similar thing but in another generation. >> president wolfram: thank you. commissioner johnck? >> commissioner johnck: this is particularly nostalgic for me because i remember howard thurman speaking at my church, reverend thurman, and often spea

commissioner johnck? >> commissioner johnck: i want going to say before i move, i do think that would be helpful to have the six-inch set back -- >> the project does propose a six-inch set back right now. >> commissioner johnck: right now, but what were you -- another 6 inches? >> no. >> commissioner johnck: i thought you were looking into that. >> commissioners, i would caution you that we're determining whether the building is fitting in with the district and not designing it. we don't design the project here and have some repercussion that affects them later. >> commissioner johnck: yeah, certainly. >> commissioners, if i may, you could direct staff and the project sponsor to work together on a deeper recess, and we could work on the did he at the sames -- detail as of what that is. what that magic number is, we could determine during the final design phase before permitting. >> president wolfram: and why don't we ask the architects here, do you have any comments about the recess? >> sure. we did go ba

commissioner johnck. >> well thank you for moving ahead with this. i mean, i've seen this happen over many, many years, this deterioration of this property. i am thankful that the city has gotten behind this. so i think what has been presented here sounds adequate from the architectural restoration aspect of it. but related to this last gentleman's comments, and i realize that one of the conditions is monthly inspections. but did i mace -- is there a timetable? we -- did i miss this? is there a timetable? >> what's the timeframe for getting it done or can we make that as a condition? >> we haven't received a timetable for construction. that is something i'd be able to incorporate into the conditions. the city attorney is still involved to a lesser degree. it would be something that would be relatively easily enforceable. >> i would be interested. i can move -- i'll wait to hear any further comments, but i can move approval with requiring the owner to submit a timetable for the completion of the project. >> i wonder if the city attorney would weigh in

commissioner johnck. >> well, yes, commissioner hyland said it all. i'm so excited to have a maritime business. we've had red and white and i can't come up with too many more. we have to get some more. maybe you can help us. there isn't any more. [laughter] >> there will be. >> i'm going to work on it. then the mission graduates. i was not too familiar with your organization. so i think that's terrific. yeah, wonderful. >> we have a motion and a second. >> very good commissioners. on that motion, then to adopt recommendations for approval commissioner black 37 yes. >> commissioner jompg. >> yes. >> commissioner johns. >> yes. >> commissioner matsuda. >> yes, commissioner pearlman. yes. >> commissioner hiemed. >> commissioner wolf rasm. >> yes. >> that passes. now for 827 presentation material. >> i want to make a comment here. this is an informational presentation. this bill is still in flux. we don't know what the final legislation is going to be. we're listening and gathering information. we're not here to take a motion- position on it. >> but the b

commissioner johnck, is that an old comment? all right. >> commissioner johnck: that's an old. would someone else like to talk about liberty? >> i move to approve. >> president wolfram: we have a motion. >> second. >> president wolfram: and a second. >> clerk: if there's nothing further, commissioners. there's a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions. on that motion -- [ roll call. ] >> clerk: so moved, commissioners. that motion passes unanimously, 7-0. >> president wolfram: thank you. hearing is adjourned. >> chairman brinkman: lest call this meeting to order. please call the role. >> [role call] >> director hsu will be absent and you do have a quorum. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. >> the use of cell phones, p e pagers or electronic devices are prohibited at the meeting. any person responsible for the ringing of a cell phone or whatever in the room may be asked to leave the room. cell phones set on vibrate do cause microphone interference so please turn them off. approval of minutes. >> chairman brinkman: any public comments? no. a motion to a

commissioner johnck, is that an old comment? all right. >> commissioner johnck: that's an old. would someone else like to talk about liberty? >> i move to approve. >> president wolfram: we have a motion. >> second. >> president wolfram: and a second. >> clerk: if there's nothing further, commissioners. there's a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions. on that motion -- [ roll call. ] >> clerk: so moved, commissioners. that motion passes unanimously, 7-0. >> president wolfram: thank you. hearing is adjourned. >> we expect commissioner bobbie wilson a little later. to my left is deputy city attorney brad russi who will provide the board with any needed legal advice this evening. i am joule rosenberg, the board's executive director. we will also be joined by representatives from the city departments that have cases before us this evening. we expect cory teague, assistant zoning administrator who also representing the planning department and planning commission, joseph duffy, the senior building inspector who represents the department of building inspe

. >> commissioner black commissioner johnck. >> here. >> commissioner pearlman. we expect commissioner hyland to arrive shortly. first is general public comment. at this time members may address the commission on matters of interest to the public your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the i