williams, who is the sole surviving son, in the year 2000, about year and a half before he died, johnclaudend claudio went to him, and he was going to have a pacemaker installed. and no surgery for a person of that age, she said dad we would like to do cryonics, would you do that with us, for us, that's when -- she said they framed it that way, will you do it for us, she says he agreed. my conclusion was that if he did he probably was not of sound mind. and i was able to interview several at least a dozen more people who said that ted told them, after this date, that he wanted to be cremated and have his ashes thrown in the keys where he'd lived and fished and as he specified in hi will -- in his will. >>rose: some of therelationshipy one are world series? >> on'only one world series, ino the cardinals. he hit only .205. that was one of his big regrets. >> how they were waiting to seed and they spent time at the hay dooms talking. what did they talk about? you would be surprised, they talked about bat size, small points about baseball, what pitchers gave you trouble, what was the size of yo