tracey burn and johnn layfield. and the christian dorsey. and welcome to all of you. yawn thon, i will start with you. we will -- it make us safer with private companies. >> tsa made travel less safe and less expensive and. >> it is i don't know. catching the knifes and guns and weapons. and of course, they have spent massive amounts of money. 20 million on the puffer system to detect explosives. we as taxpayers pay for it. 2.50 perleg surcharge. it will rise to 15. public reports say private companies can do it less expensive. >> wayne, you agree it is better for the taxpayer if we let privatization. >> it is not a question of safety or not. we privatize prisons in this country and safety was not a question. it is not a question of safety. they all theto put it out for bid and let private companies bid on it. and the other thing is have states involved as opposed to the federal government. the federal government can't do anything right. we than. >> yist cran, you think we feel safer as a nation . do you think at this point private companies should come in. >> of cour