a few weeks later, the tapes arrived at cochran's office. johnnie was very careful about those tapes, locking 'em in his safe, where only he had the combination. because it was just so explosive. >> anything out of a [ bleep ] mouth for the first five or six sentences is a fucking lie. >> this is mark fuhrman on the tape. i've heard it myself, it is his voice and it is chilling. >> it was mind boggling what we'd heard. he used the n-word so much that became insignificant. >> are you guys, like, you know, you listen to those tapes? >> it was manna from heaven. >> reporter: but for the prosecution, the fuhrman tapes were pure hell. >> it was horrifying, horrifying and listening to that tape, it was, like -- it was, like, having a sewer-unload on your head. >> reporter: fuhrman insisted the conversations were no more than the basis for a movie. >> is this really what the reality of a democracy is? that we use a fictional screeenplay to prosecute one man for doing too good of a job on a murder case and acquitting another? i just think it's absolutely ab

yes, according, yes, that's what's going on. >> so apparently after the officer realize who had johnnie cochranney, he apologized and of course, let him drive off. now, onto another big moment, last night. when johnny paid a visit, i believe, with the jury, to o.j. simpson's house. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> this -- >> so in this scene, johnnie cochran re-decorated oj simpson's mansion there in brentwood, with art on loan from the cochran collection, his own artwork, so complex magazine says there were reports that at least one of the paintings was taken from johnny's own office. but in real life, cochran has always denied ever doing that. and the idea was to redecorate his house and then have the jury, all 12 people, walk through his house, to try to change the opinion of who he was, or is, at that time. >> you can see putting up pictures of his family. >> he is a family guy. >> yes, because before didn't very pictures every his girlfriends and stuff? >> yes. a lot of sports stuff, too. >> let's get back to this. people are going wild on twitter. some want to do this cryotherapy, for three minute you get in

his name, johnnie l. cochran jr. >> we're ready to proceed to trial. we want to see justice for o.j. simpson. and we believe he'll be acquitted. >> reporter: cochran had been a thorn in the lapd's side for years, running a lucrative practice trying police misconduct cases. from the outset his strategy was >> this was the kind of case where you attack the police and their credibility. >> reporter: especially in 1995. >> at that time, the only way to describe the situation between the black community and lapd was a state of open warfare. >> reporter: connie rice is a civil rights attorney who lives in los angeles. >> the black community experienced lapd as a hostile occupation force that viewed the black community with racist contempt. >> reporter: so it was the perfect time for that defense to be read. >> it was the perfect time for that defense to be raised, that this is a black man being persecuted. and he ought to be let go. >> reporter: but o.j. simpson? for years he had lived on la's mostly white west-side. he spent much of his time playing golf, d

also i think johnnie cochran and o.j. simpson were both a lot calmer in real life talking to each other. the kind of shouting wasn't as apparent but i guess you have to take liberties. look, when they made a movie about me "reversal of fortune" they had me throwing a telephone and breaking it on the floor. and when i complained to my son, who was the producer of the movie, he said look, we had to show passion and we had to do it in two seconds. so we had to show you throwing a phone on the floor. that is the kind of liberty you have to take in making a film like this. >> alan, it's a movie. come on. >> the movie suggests we need an alan dershowitz film festival, of like all the movies that feature alan dershowitz. don't you think? >> and all the books written by jeffrey toobin and we'll have no time for anything else. >> do you think this is going to change minds when it comes to guilt or innocence? because there are still people who very staunchly believe that o.j. simpson was framed and he is not guilty. >> one of the d

>> reporter: then it was johnnie cochran's turn. >> stop this cover up. if you don't stop it then who? >> reporter: it was classic delivered that iconic line which would forever define the trial. >> if it doesn't fit you must acquit.o with cochran's speech ringing in their ears, the exhausted jury would now decide the fate of impson. but it turns out most of them had already made up their minds. less than four hours, leaving millions to ask -- was justice done?s physically painful. that was not justice. >> reporter: do you blame yourself for this? i'm not peeking my flight. i'm peeking my...wait, i missed my flight. owl photos. photos of... dolphins! a high-stepping man. pizza gifs. it's all faster with 3d touch on iphone 6s. plants may have their limits. imagination...doesn't ourishment... ...patience... ...one day... seen your garden? ...it'll blossom. find low prices on the things that make easter fun and delicious. walmart. am i a fan of applebee's fan favorites burbon st. chicken and shrimp? it's so smokey and mysterious... then that cajun spice. i a

and i think johnnie cochran and o.j. talking to each other. the kind of shouting wasn't as apparent but i guess you have to take liberties. look, when they made a movie about me "reversal of fortune." they had me breaking a telephone and throwing it on the floor. they said we have to show passion and we have to take liberty. >> alan, it's a movie. come on. >> the movie suggests we need an alan dershowitz film festival, like all the movies that feature alan dershowitz. >> and all the books written by jeffrey toobin, no time for anything else. >> do you think this is going to change minds when it comes to guilt or innocence? there are still people who staunch live believe o.j. simpson was framed and is not guilty. >> my book is very explicit about my belief that o.j. is guilty. the series takes not as direct a position. i think you can draw your own conclusions pretty obviously but that's different. one of the things i realized about the o.j. simpson case also long ago is i don't try to convince anybody. if people believe

@johnny cochran would tell him @to keep his mouth shut right @now. @he got the knife in 1990s. @so, i think the officer could @be on the line for this one. @>> for the record, one of the @attorneys who represented o.j. @simpson said today this is @ridiculous, forget about it, @it's in the the knife, @whatever. @>> why do you think this case @continues to draw so much @interest in this country? @>> we all remember when that @verdict was read, it had @everything to it. @battle, it was -- this is what @started reality television when @you think about it and it @continues. @the show is out now, and that's @running, it just never went @away, many people were invested @in that trial. @there were a lot of knives @turned over the years and if @so, i'd be interested to see @what the charges are. @>> he's in jail now, i wonder @what he thinks. @>> he may put out another book, @you never know. @>> still to come, what if your @career was watching movies and @sharing your opinions of that. @how a local film lover turned @his passion to a job. @we'll tell you his all time @favorite movies. @

>> and this famous johnnie cochran line isn't his either. so whose is it? >> o.j. says i've got a line. >>> cover of "people" shows blake and gwen and claims how hollywood's most surprising couple are changing for each other.

>> and this famous johnnie cochran line isn't his either. so whose is it? >> o.j. says i've got a line. >>> cover of "people" shows blake and gwen and claims how hollywood's most surprising couple are changing for each other. change out much those jeans here and there when you go to the vanity fair cover party.

that evidence was dismissed by his attorney, johnnie cochran. >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit.reporter: the l.a.p.d. says the story behind this new knife could turn out to be bogus. >> do you know what's going on here! o.j.'s in the back seat with a gun to his head! >> reporter: it comes as a cable miniseries recounting the o.j. saga has renewed interest in the case. >> it's remarkable. i mean, this is the case that never ends. >> reporter: law professor laurie levenson covered the simpson trial and says the knife is a fascinating development but of little legal significance. >> even if they find some evidence on this, they would have to show chain of custody. they would have to show how it got there, and even if they said, "it was o.j.'s and nicole's" he cannot be retried for the murder. there's double jeopardy. >> reporter: of course, o.j. simpson is already behind bars. he is serving a prison sentence in nevada on an unrelated case. as for this newly found knife, scott, the l.a.p.d. says they are not sure when they will get the test results on that knife. >> pelley: ben, tha

>> and this famous johnnie cochran line isn't his either. so whose is it? >> o.j. says i've got a line. >>> cover of "people" shows blake and gwen and claims how hollywood's most surprising couple are changing for each other. change out much those jeans here and there when you go to the vanity fair cover party. >> their chemistry is strong. blake and gwen made their red carpet debut ativanity fair's oscar party. are wedding bells next? marriage won't be happening any time soon, but a source does say

as defense attorney johnnie cochran preached to the jury. >> stop this cover-up. if you don't stop it, then reporter: the jury deliberated barely four hours. >> orenthal james simpson not guilty of the crime of murder. >> that was not >> reporter: josh mankiewicz, nbc news, los angeles. >> clark moved to private practice after that trial and started winning. her latest book "blood defense" comes out later kaelin and others tonight at 9:00, 8:00 >>> dylan dreyer in chicago, getting set to take a polar plunge into a frigid lake michigan. good to see you there, dylan >> good morning, guys. this is the 16th polar plunge in chicago. and millions of dollars have been raised for the greatl olympics. i'm joined by casey hogan, the president of special olympics chicago. this has become quite the celebrity affair. what can we expect thise're going to expect a lot this year. we are at a record-breaking year with over 5,500 plungers expected to join ave surpassed last year's fund-raising goal and we have the great crew of chicago fire, chicago pd, chicago med,cal chef graham

the whole exchange between chris darden and johnny cochran -- dari: oh, yes. >> it's real. dari: the whisper? >> all that smack talk, all the smack talk in the courtroom, it's real. dari: it's outstanding. it's so worth watching. it's so good. thank you. >> okay. dari: tennis star maria sharapova says she failed a drug test at the australian open. she was told she tested positive for something she has been taken for a number of years. this year. five time major champion, she claimed she didn't notice its addition to the banned list. she lost to serena williams in the four finals. no word on what penalties she may face. alison: one community on long island brewing up more opportunities for beer makers. dari: jodi goldberg shows us the plan to attract more microbreweries. >> people in co -- here call this an eyesore. it's littered with bottles and trash. the walls sprayed with graffiti. >> the roof is completely off on the other side. the windows are broken. if you go inside, it's tagged. it's being used as a skate park. >> reporter: this industrial agency has plans for the s

. >> johnnie cochran there in closing said to the jurors, if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. most famous line i think i've ever heard in a courtroom. >> showed the moment last night in episode 66. here it is. >> these gloves are too small. >> man. >> they're too small. >> that changed everything. >> well, look. i mean, did it really change? >> i think so. >> i don't know if it changed everything. the bigger thing that changed everything mark fuhrman using the in the worlds. it shouldn't mattered but married to the jury which was suspicious. you know, but in a case harvey based so much on this new dna evidence at the time, this was physical evidence. right? we didn't have that so-called knife. and you had so much other evidence. but this was -- >> i thought the smoking gun that the defense had in this case? >> it wasn't. i mean, when you heard marcia clark talking the bar, she said this in closing argument, and it is true, when you have got -- when you have got o. j. simpson's blood on the gate, where the murderer, where you have nicole and ron's blood in the bronco, when you

evidence gloves, i never did. õ>> reporter: and the phrase, made famous by the defense attorney johnnie cochrandoesn't fit you must acquit. >> that was chris's call. i was miserable from the moment that chris ápr" no, i'm doing this. i never expected anything good to come of it. >> reporter: simpson struggling to get them past his nknuckles. >> he said to me i'm sorry. i said it's okay f. that lost the case for us we were never go be to win. >> reporter: no winners, the defense argued that racism led police to frame him for a crime he didn't commit. >> at the end of the day there was no way to reach that jury. there was no way to make them believe. there really wasn't. >> reporter: in the more than two decades since that trial, simpson never wavered in his claim of innocence and marcia clark never stopped blaming herself for the outcome. >> you blame yourself for this? >> you know, i always do. i do. i was the one trying the case. >>> don't miss the two-hour special height here on nbc 10 this sunday night at 9:00, followed by "nbc 10 news" at 11. >>> this weekend marks a somber anniversary for

as defense attorney johnnie cochran preached to the jury. >> stop this cover-up.you don't stop it, then who. >> reporter: the jury deliberated barely four hours. >> orenthal james simpson not guilty of the crime of murder. >> that was not justice. >> reporter: josh mankiewicz, nbc news, los angeles. >> clark moved to private practice after that trial and started winning. her latest book "blood defense" comes out later this spring. hear more from her, kris jenner, cato okkaelin and others tonigh at 9:00, >>> dylan dreyer in chicago, getting set to take a polar plunge into a frigid lake >>> and, guys, the plunge happens at 10:00 central time. so we're not going to get to do it on live tv, but we'll have it all on our website. check back there later today. and al roker and i have -- >> what are you going to wear? can you get some kind of warm suit or something? what is your strategy? >> they recommend not wearing too many clothes, though i will not be wearing a bikini by any means, but we have a t-shirt and shorts plan going, al and i do. >> good luck. we know you're

that was the hook johnnie cochran give the jury.isagree with marcia, i don't think the jury went theren there to acquit o.j. they were grasping at anything they could find as reasonable doubt. the glove not fitting was enough for them to hang the acquittal on it to say he was not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. >> what about race relations now? has anything changed in your mind. >> i don't think -- from ig everything that happened, tree john martin, to the pink houses, all over the country there is this same tension i think that race will speak when it comes to criminal justice time and time again. simpson and this trial perhaps the most graphic example of the racial divide that existed 20 years ago and i maintain that it exists today. >> if you are watching >> amazing to go back and remember all those details. >>> denver broncos quarterback peyton manning announcing his retirement. a look at the legacy he is lifing behind. >> i fought the good fight. i finished my football race, and after 18 years, it's time. god bless all of you

they viewed simpson in the years since, and then, of course, you can see the man next to him, johnnie cochran who has passed away. robert kardashian, who has also passed away, who at that time when i first knew robert kardashian and met his young daughters, who would have known they would become the kardashians of today reinventing reality television, so it touches almost every part of our lives. >> we will have a report from california with more details about what police are saying derni concerning the dna testing that is now under way. >>> for most of us, you look outside and barely see any sign there was some snow. let me show you what it looked like in st. mary's county. some parts there saw up to half a foot of snow. it created no issues on the roads or on the sidewalks either. some people we talked with say they're hoping that this could be winter's last g this time. the roads are clear so it's good. >> it needs to warm up. it's back and forth all the time. >> last storm? >> we hope so. i'm getting tired of it. we need some warm weather. >> he may get his wish. doug kammerer is up in th

what happened during the trial was that johnnie cochran, robert shapi shapiro, his lawyers found thatfe he had purchased, and it was in pristine condition and had obviously not been used. so they turned it over to the judge. and the prosecution gave up at the trial this whole idea that the knife he purchased downtown was the murder weapon. but they never did have a theory that they presented to the jury about what happened -- about what the murder weapon was and what happened to it. >> just remind me and our viewers, like what is o.j. simps simpson's status right now. how long is he in prison for? >> well, it's a very long sentence. i believe it's 33 years, but he's eligible for parole in 2017. he is 68 years old. by most accounts, not doing very well in prison. there are not many 68-year-olds in prison. so i think it is possible he will get parole, but this was a very long sentence for what was certainly seemed to me a very marginal case. and i think, you know, most people believe, though the judge didn't say it, that this sentence was really payback. it was a karma sentence. it was

. >> we need to bring in johnnie cochran and we need to do it now. >> now, once again, the story, reale headlines testimony tale of a knife, found years ago on the land where simpson once lived. >> so it has been submitted to our lab. they are going to study it. >> reporter: law enforcement tell mbc news it is described as a small utility-style knives commonly used in construction or landscaping a. knife they say is not consistent with the weapon used in the 1994 murders of nicole brown and ron goldman. but police are looking into it. >> this is a double homicide that is still opened and ongoing. >> los angeles police say now one of tear retired officers got a five from a construction worker on simpson's former property. while working off duty at a movie shoot across the street t. officer's attorney fred copeland says his client did the right thing. >> he did what i think every person would have done under the circumstances is, that's you call lapd. you let them make the call t. call was, look, this doesn't have any value to us. it's not useful. >> reporter: retired detective to him la