reasonable doubt to this case, period, end of sentence, end of case. >> finishing for the defense, johnny cochranmorable quote of the trial. >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> but now, two decades later, we learn that wasn't cochran's phrase after all. >> he did not invent that. that was done by the dean of the santa clara law school jerry oleman who was the most unknown person in our defense team. >> and so 20 years later, he is getting the proper credit? >> yes, he is getting the credit. he deserves it. >> however, regardless of the source, the words "it doesn't fit," hammered cochran's message home. >> and after nine months of testimony, hundreds of exhibits, more than 260 days isolated in a hotel, jurors are finally sent to determine o.j. simpson's fate. >> we walked into that room. we, let's see. what do you want to do first? well, let's see where everybody stands. we went around the room, guilty, not guilty. >> it's two votes guilty, ten not guilty. after reviewing testimony, they prepare to vote again. >> now, you guys had been sequestered for nine months, and you were tired, you ha

. >> johnnie cochran was an icon. >> the eyes of the world are focused here in los angeles where theal of o.j. simpson is about to begin. >> that trail of blood through his own ford embryonic bronco and into his house in brentwood is devastating proof of his guilt. >> one of the bloody gloves. >> the fact that blood appears on vital evidence is evidence of something far more sinister. >> the notion that the los angeles police department would mistreat an african-american suspect in 1994 was far from outlandish and no one knew that better than johnnie cochran. >> you describe the appearance. >> a dark leather glove. it appeared to be somewhat moist or sticky. >> we knew that detective fuhrman had issues in his background. >> you say on your oath that you have not spoken about black people as niggers in the past ten years? >> that's what i'm saying. >> the o.j. simpson trial is in chaos and today's free for all could decide the ultimate outcome. >> the fuhrman tapes a ticking time bomb in the simpson trial blew up today. >> it becomes evident that mark fuhrman has worked with a l.a. sc

and then, johnny cochran is handed a land mine. tape recordings. all right, we can now prove this detective was racist and framed o.j. simpson. we got it. it's over. now fast forward and here we are at this parole hearing. >> areva martin, i want to hear you jump in as well. stand by. hang on. o.j.'s walking back in the room. go ahead, let's listen to you and let's just hang tight on these pictures. >> let's talk about this land mine, this land mine is the lead detective in a case using the "n" word, so i guess i'm just flabbergasted at the panel's discussion about the case and it, again, reflects the racial divide in this country. if you believe o.j. simpson is guilty and you disrespect the jury verdict in the trial, then you're seeing this, this parole hearing, through those lens. and you're not capable of seeing them through the lens of what's happening today, what is his prison term been like for the last nine years, and what's relevant to him getting off on parole related to the charges of robbery. not to the case where he was acquitted. and i

we saw the infamous glove scene with johnnie cochran.w era of lawyers being experts and speaking about legal cases and it raised this issue of race. some say you can't talk about o.j. simpson if you don't bring up the issues of race, class and culture, it really changed the way the american justice system is viewed and a lot of people to see what happens in these high profile cases and how difficult they are, even when are prosecutors think, as they did in this case, they had a completely winnable case. >> it also inspired a real interest among the laymen about the legal system, the inner workings as well? >> yes. people i'm sure, there are thousands and thousands of lawyers today who say they became inspired to become either prosecutors or defense attorneys as a result of watching this trial. this is the first time we saw high profile lawyers like allen dershowitz, johnnie cochran on television showing us what they do on a daily basis inside courtrooms. >> isn't it interesting that this would scope side with the other court issue. it wa

and the head of oj's dream team, johnnie cochran spent years after the trial defending more famous faces as well as many civil rights cases. when he died in 2005 from a brain tumor, his funeral was a who's who of hollywood. within 20 years later, the interest in these real-life characters is still strong. when the fx program, the people versus o.j. simpson aired in 2016, google searches spiked for everyone, including specific searches like marci marcia clar, and o.j. simpson's kids. now that simpsons incarceration and isolation has ended, we asked wind and what contacts will we be hearing from the juice again. that is next. with claim rateguard your rates won't go up just because of a claim. i totally could've - no! switching to allstate is worth it. my doctor recommended i switch laxatives. stimulant laxatives make your body go by forcefully stimulating the nerves in your colon. miralax is different. it works with the water in your body to hydrate and soften. unblocking your system naturally. miralax. this is cand right now, lobster. we're serving up more delicious crab than ever. class

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johnny cochran jumped up immediately. doesn't he like football?was going to let us go to football games as a means to try to appease me. >> as for the hearing tomorrow, cryer suspects he'll win. >> the only thing i would hope for is that he would come out and try to make his life purposeful or worthy as far as understanding that, hey, look, you have been given a gift here. if you did kill these people and you got away with it, by all means, you think about how you can change your life and try to make your life better. >> i don't know what o.j. will do if he gets out, but i will tell you this -- we will be there tomorrow for the hearing. nischelle turner will have every detail from nevada. >> it's going to be interesting. >>> speaking of a confinement, we head to the "big brother" house with a sneak peak travel consideration provided by -- >>> i had to step away because i will explode on people. >> why do you think i'm here? >> three consecutive nights of "big brother" on cbs, and it kicks off with some tears. >> lot of tears. one of the women is u

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and it should mean a whole lot, and it did mean a whole lot, and johnny cochran exposing that was his brilliance and the state didn't prove its case. case over. they don't prove their case. you should be acquitted. >> i was with you for the first half of what you said. johnny cochran did a brilliant job and mark furman was a racist and mark furman lied about use of the "n" word and o.j. was still guilty. and there was ample evidence, in my opinion, for the jury to find that he was guilty. i mean, that's all i'm saying. >> jeff, remember -- >> that's a disagreement we're going to have until the end of time. >> remember the supreme court -- jeff, remember the old saying. beyond a reasonable doubt is that we have a standard in this country where we will let nine people who are guilty go free so that we do not convict one innocent. that's what the definition of beyond a reasonable doubt is. >> and jeffrey, you accept the jury virkts in other cases. why is this case different? why are people having such a difficult time with o.j. simpson when the jury has an opportunity to review the evide

. >> over the -- >> johnny cochran had everything he wanted.ra hart mckinney, her tapes, and recordings of mark fuhrman saying the "n" word. >> and in preparation of your testimony today can you tell the jury how many times you counted that he used that word? >> approximately 42. >> 42 times? >> yes. >> yeah, the 77th. leave that old station. >> how did you stomach listening to that over and over again? >> those comments that he used made me feel repulsed but also it lit a fire under me. it's despicable, the fact he can think about that and talk like that makes me think it's happening and so i have to find a way to reflect that. >> so it just empowered you. >> it just pissed me off. >> and it made her a crucial player in the trial of the century. she could have profited handsomely from those tapes but she didn't. >> i would never do that. i would never have sold the tapes. >> is it true you were offered $250,000 for them? >> it is. >> why didn't you sell them? >> no one, talking about me, should be profiting from this tragedy people have to liv

. >> over the 10 -- >> johnny cochran had everything he wanted.s, and recordings of mark fuhrman saying the "n" word. >> and in preparation of your testimony today can you tell the jury how many times you koupted that he used that word? >> approximately 42. >> 42 times? >> yes. >> how did you stomach listening to that over and over again? >> those comments that he used made me feel repulsed but also it lit a fire under me. it's despicable, the fact he can think about that and talk like that makes me think it's happening and so i have to find a way to reflect that. >> so it just empowered you. >> it just pissed me off. >> and it made her a crucial player in the trial of the century. she could have profited handsomely from those tapes but she didn't. >> i would never do that. i would never have sold the tapes. >> is it true you were offered $250,000 for them? >> it is. >> why didn't you sell them? >> no one, talking about me, should be profiting from this tragedy people have to live with every day of their life. >> but mckinney was still thrust into

brother-in-law, trump, jr., under the bus as well as you have a situation where despite what johnny cochranaid, jesse cochran -- >> if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> sony questions, he said he got together and that they didn't know what they were talking about, it seems so clear to me, i never read the email chain. never looked and saw that my brother-in-law was saying i'd love to get information from russia, dirt on hillary. and then he said, you know what, i met with that russian ambassador, so what if i said let's go to the russian embassy and have a secure channel, a back channel communication, i didn't mean it like that. it was just a one time thing. this was not a good day. he is back on his heels. he is on the defensive. it was a carefully tailored message, as kimberly said, written by his lawyer. but the whole thing looks to me like everybody pointing fingers, if not taking out knives. >> speaking of techno knives, we have congressman hakeem jeffries here in a sound bite. >> the majority of democrats understand that there is a cloud of illegitimacy over the white house o

>> a little over eight days, as i'm sitting there on the stand, i was being cross-examined by johnny cochran. i looked over to the jury and addressed them from time to time. they were only a few feet away. at he was going on about this nonsense about where i live, what cops do, it went crazy but when i am on direct with marsha, they are just sitting there glaring at me. when i was on the stand, it hit me at that time that i don't think we are going to get there. >> martha: i want to play one sound bite from o.j. simpson today and get your response. >> i would never, ever pull a weapon on everybody. i always thought i was pretty good with people. i basically have lived a conflict free life. >> martha: what do you think? >> i think we'll need to have a sense of humor over that. his whole life has been conflict. go all the way back to his time at fc, there were complaints against him for abusing a couple of girls back then. although he threw his marriage. his whole life has been conflict. he's in total denial because he's a sociopath. when something negative happens, it's all about them. it's n

. >> over the -- >> johnny cochran had everything he wanted.art mckinney, her tapes, and recordings of mark fuhrman saying the "n" word. >> and in preparation of your testimony today can you tell the jury how many times you counted that he used that word? >> approximately 42. >> 42 times? >> yes. >> yeah, the 77th. leave that old station. it's got the smell of -- >> how did you stomach listening to that over and over again? >> those comments that he used made me feel repulsed but also it lit a fire under me. it's despicable, the fact he can think about that and talk like that makes me think it's happening and so i have to find a way to reflect that. >> so it just empowered you. >> it just pissed me off. >> and it made her a crucial player in the trial of the century. she could have profited handsomely from those tapes but she didn't. >> i would never do that. i would never have sold the tapes. >> is it true you were offered $250,000 for them? s. >> i was. >> why didn't you sell them? >> no one, talking about me, should be profiting from this tr

an african-american suspect in 1994 was far from outlandish, and no one knew that better than johnnie cochranglove, sir? >> a dark leather glove that appeared to be moist or sticky. >> we knew early on that detective fuhrman had issues in his background. >> you say on your oath that you have not spoken about black people as ni dprggers in the pa ten years? >> that's what i'm saying, sir. >> the o.j. simpson trial is in chaos and today's free for all could decide the ultimate outcome. >> the fuhrman tapes a ticking time bomb in the simpson trial blew up today. >> it becomes evident late in the trial that mark fuhrman has worked with a l.a. screenwriter and made tapes of what police life is like. >> the defense offered 41 examples of fuhrman using the word [ bleep ]. something he swore on the witness stand he has not done in the last ten years. >> the defense wants desperately to prove that fuhrman is capable of manufacturing evidence to bolster their claim that he planted the bloody glove found at o.j. simpson's estate. >> detective fuhrman will you resume the witness stand. >> was the testimo

missouri say he did it and he got away from if he had johnny cochran, smooth man and he had a dream teamues that occurred in this case, the answers resoundingly is no. cases have to be about what they are about. any crime that you're allegedly -- that you allegedly committed, the jury has to weigh and evaluate what you did here. i'm not suggesting the jury did anything but that because technically the elements of the crime were met. when you good into the room saen ano one leaves it is kidnapping. when you have guns and you use them and put them in fear you're guilty. a sentence of 9 to 33 years based upon a crime of stupidity? it's hard to imagine that that didn't have anything to do with retribution and payback. i do believe that. i also believe that this board will base their decision not about that, all right? not about that crime, but about this crime and if they do, and they factor in the conditions that they need to, the safety of the community, will he be a defender and come back or get out there and live his life in peace in 70? i think we will see "the juice" victor, being spru

. >> simpson so-called dream team of lawyers led my johnnie cochran, effectively turned the case into a trial of the los angeles police department. alleging racism, and evidence. >> if it doesn't fit you must acquit. >> october 3, 1995, the jury returned its verdict. >> we the jury in the above entitled action, find the defendant, orenthal james simpson, not guilty. >> the families of ron goldman and nicole brown pursued the civil courts. february 1997, a jury held sim libel for the deaths and ordered him to may more than $33 million to the brown and goldman families. >> this is a man who has never been responsible for anything, any violent act he's ever done. >> simpson paid the of the money. some of what he did hand over coming from the auction of his sports memorabilia. in the years after the civil trial he repeated minor run-ins with law enforcement. by 2007 he had largely disappeared from view. until september 13, of that year. he and friends confronted two sports memorabilia dealers in their las vegas hotel room and forced them to hand over artifacts simpson claimed were stolen

and the tapes were vulgar, and the lynchpin in johnny cochran's defense by an l.a.ment willing to convict evidence of a black man. and these tapes changed history. we've been talking about that now for days and many people felt that race trumped justice in this case. and that has haunted laura hart mckinney for decades. let's take a listen. >> there were bits of the puzzle that i was just unable to reveal at the time and i was unable to be as truthful as i really wanted to be. >> reporter: so she is telling her story, her truth. and for the first time excerpts from the fuhrman tapes you've never heard. vulgar. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: sexist. >> how do you arrest a violent suspect? i yell out, have a man do it. >> reporter: disturbing. >> you got to be a borderline sociopath, you got to be violent. >> wow, it is amazing to hear that now all these years later. did mark fuhrman ever try to get these tapes or ask mckinney to give up these tapes? >> oh, yes. by the way, she was still recording him during the trial which was more fascinating. you'll hear that tonight.

was at johnnie cochran's funeral in april 2005. ybody who had ever been represented by johnny to stand up. i looked to the church to my right and there was o.j. simpson and a few rows away was michael jackson standing as well. it was a scene to remember. >> carl, do you think at the time of the trial there was much written or said about whether african-american communities saw him? is there a difference today how different communities see o.j. simpson? >> you know, i think, charlie, that the distinction between the opinions of the white community and the black community are far closer today 22 years later than they were in 1995. i dare say that i would suspect that probably a majority of african-americans would probably believe that o.j. simpson was responsible for the two deaths. those numbers were far smaller back 22 year aeld. >>> we were speaking with rikki klieman earlier, our legal analyst. she said o.j. semson still has plenty of money, he has a huge pension. >> my understanding is, yes, he gets $25,000 a month from his pensi