joining me from hala wood, johnny gill.ok, jg and the bc kids. she also played aunt vivon the fresh prince of bellaire. you grew up in the jacksons generation. what was it like to see a black pop group so so big time when there were civil rights issues. >> for me growing up in a high school in a little town where there was probably ten black kids, it was monumentis, it was like nothing you had ever seen. it gave you a hope you could make it from a small town. i had five brothers, so we all grabbed our coca-cola bottles and our glasses and acted like jackson 5. >> and johnny gill, you were a product of the jackson 5 generation. and i heard you say as a kid watching the jookson 5 special was like watching an event, why? >> the whole family would gather around, and we were in awe. as kids, we didn't really believe they were real. >> egypt, i want to ask you as somebody else who got to follow the jacksons as you were growing up, how do you think they impacted america culturally. >> we were in the middle of the civil rights move