now last week i talked to senator johnny isaacson, a republican from georgia on this show.overnment shutdown would be a bad idea. >> shutting the government down is bad idea. defending the country's important and making sure social security checks are delivered is important. but it's a better idea to run the country like it's supposed to be run. do your responsibility. appropriate money, make cuts where you you have to. if you have to change the tax code, change the tax code. but do it in the context of the macro sense, not the micro. >> can't agree more, joining me are david gergen. cnn political analyst and professor of public service and the director of the center of public leadership at the harvard kennedy school and ron brownstein, executive director at the national journal magazine in washington. gentlemen, good to see you. ron, republicans could push president obama to accept further budget cuts by threatening to shut down the government. we've heard one leading republican senator, johnny isaacson, you've heard him say it's a very bad idea. could we be headed down th

. >> senator johnny isaacson joins me, he's a republican from georgia, he's a former businessman andn my opinion, a very reasonable guy. senator, you were on the show in mid-january. we discussed the debt ceiling. you voted against the deal to suspend the debt ceiling with 34 of your fellow senators but it passed anyway. what do you need to see in a bill to avoid the sequester sometime between now and the end of february? >> ali, first of all, as someone who did run a business for 22 years, i'm embarrassed about the way we're operating the country right now and i want to say that up front. sequestration is a bad idea. we ought to be doing our business, appropriating and budgeting, making decisions on cost-benefit analysis. these continual deadlines and cliffs is no way to run a country much less a company. >> when you run a company, you have these things called poison pills. that's what the sequestration was. right? something to awful it would prevent a certain course of action from taking place. why is it that elected officials don't treat that the same way that you would if you wer

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