i remember years ago when we were doing dangerous lady as a television series, and johnny woods who directedver read, martina, where it was just like reading a script. it was like reading a shooting script." he said, "you don't have that much description, but what you have is in how people talk and how they react with each other." he said, "i think that shows." i don't have reams and reams of, you know, if they have long hair or... do you like some of the bent people that you meet? yeah, i mean, very enigmatic. so many people are very enigmatic, you know, and i think people can go either way, you know, and i think more and more the lines are becoming blurred because of what's happened with with bankers and what's happened... it's a very blurred line now between who people actually think are criminals — people say, you know, "oh, he's a bit of a lad," or "he's a rogue," but the man that'sjust took everybody‘s money in the bank, i think they have a completely different impression. well, that's an interesting philosophical question, isn't it? in betrayal, i mean, you're back in this territory t

. >> these specifically stand out because these are the costume diner colleen at wood so this is johnnyf as tan tick. >> really special. >> on display fair oaks mall. >> um-hmm through july 18th. >> okay. folks have chance to go out seen them. which is f the high fashion and who doesn't love snoopy and bell, right? >> right. >> fantastic. >> hard not to love them. >> do you do the designing yourself. >> i do. with the fashion love always there for you. >> it was. i always put pieces together, growing up i always, you know, mixed stuff up and i loved -- always loved fashion. this kind of combines, you know, my love of fashion and my passion for social justice. >> did you strike a deal with your dad whatever you design he has to have at least one of them? >> yes, absolutely. [ laughter ] >> all right. it's a pleasure to meet both of you thank for coming in. >> thank you so much. >> it looks fantastic. both wishes to both of you come out and see the displace at fair oaks mall through july 18th free to come out and check them out. >> yes. >> you can look at for themselves. please pass along