as johno be something, brown was going down, this character was going up.etend to be a a lot of times people did not know what it meant, but it was his desire to become a man. i have had enough. that is what made him. let's talk about historians. what youour take on think on historians, given that you had to do some research. we now believe this family now believe that. now believe this and we now believe that. the younger historians and african-american timerians have a difficult unearthing this information and passing it to people because people do not read books as much. they have fewer avenues in which these -- and which the true history can get out. a lot of the history is off. it is written with the same prejudice that certain networks have one they report the news of the day. i read history books. i read nothing but history books. they have so much to give. i wish i had majored in history in college. tavis: the new book from james mcbride is called "the good lord bird." be top of the list. i enjoyed talking to you. that is our show for tonight. as al