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john: seventh blacks been viims in america? >> years ago, john.iduals did not have access to education, housing, jobs. times have changed, and we don't live in that era anymore. john: let's talk about affirmative action, given america's history of discrimination, it seems reasonable t me that whites should try to make amends, tried to give a break to minorities ace th i had. what is wrong with that? before you answer, let's bring in a white person who opposes affirmative action. jennifer gratz was denied admission to the university of michigan, you say because you are white. aviano was because of your race? >> well, they're proud of the fact that they use race and admission to help some people into heard others. the university of machinelike i applied -- johnn not prrudly hurt others. they say they help some. >> when i alied to the university of michigan and a point systemn place. you needed 100 point to be accepted. a perfect act score and an applicant to los points, and a standing as sake was one point. you're bck, as bennett, are native america

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john: thank you.r film is great, and people can simply go to my website and find out how to see it. we will plan more throughout the show. now, when the housing bubble burst about five years ago, the fed committee even more of our money to keeping wall street flow. >> stocks crest today. >> bank of america down. >> the worst day ever on wall street. >> a market driven by fear -- >> involving not just the banks the fed was traded to protect but the hedge funds, investment banks, and insurance conglomerate. john: are you committing in this interview that you're not going to let any of these banks fail. the matter what their balance sheet looks like they're not going to fail. >> they're not going to fail. john: we have the doctrine too big to fail. implied before, but now it was real. it was believed that the fed saved us from another depression an economist from the university of georgia cities this. they say this to mind told. >> they did not save us. first of all, we have had a recession, and a really

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that is our show tonight. ♪ >> and now john stossel. ♪ john: okay.ess kick the can down the road again, but this does not address the irresponsible spending that is going to bankrupt us. tonight we will solve america's debt problems. really. it is not that hard once you stop assuming that what makes america work is government. our politicians did not always believe that government was so important. they used to spend billions less . this week and was trying to think about how i could illustrate this. so we build a big, goofy charge in ticket outside. this is federal spending per person since america began. started low, less than 5 percent of the economy. world war one, or to. it used to go down. now even in peacetime it only goes up. pretty san we are up here. so what is going to happen? >> grandchildren and maybe my children. they will be burdened. >> it is unbelievable the amount of debt that we rack up. >> 20,000 per person. >> it is astronomical. john: this is where we are going >> well, you should stop. john: tt there are some who just have fait

john: he has a point. all of the discretionary spending. >> it is important to emphasize with mandatory spending that is about to kick in. this is another increase of the one way ratchet that will kick in on january january 1st. that is what we try to prevent is expanding the entitlement state that many are saying it is unsustainable even before obamacare. the least we can do to protect the american people is to protect them from more expansion of government that we cannot afford. john: thank you senator lee. know i am told is shutting down government is terrible for the economy. simply not paying the government workers takes off the gdp he says there that customers of the business in this country and it sounds enormous if you listen to him but economist at ben powell says the opposite is true. the shutdown could be good for america. >> first of get some perspective if mcdold's laid off 40 percent of non food production rkers and closed up the drive through it and stop putting the toy is is the happy meal

that is our show tonight. ♪ >> and now john stossel. ♪ john: okay.ess kick the can down the road again, but this does not address the irresponsible spending that is going to bankrupt us. tonight we will solve america's debt problems. really. it is not that hard once you stop assuming that what makes america work is government. our politicians did not always believe that government was so important. they used to spend billions less . this week and was trying to think about how i could illustrate this. so we build a big, goofy charge in ticket outside. this is federal spending per person since america began. started low, less than 5 percent of the economy. world war one, or to. it used to go down. now even in peacetime it only goes up. pretty san we are up here. so what is going to happen? >> grandchildren and maybe my children. they will be burdened. >> it is unbelievable the amount of debt that we rack up. >> 20,000 per person. >> it is astronomical. john: this is where we are going >> well, you should stop. john: that there are some who just have fa

john: thank you.r film is great, and people can simply go to my website and find out how to see it. we will plan more throughout the show. now, when the housing bubble burst about five years ago, the fed committee even more of our money to keeping wall street flow. >> stocks crest today. >> bank of america down. >> the worst day ever on wall street. >> a market driven by fear -- >> involving not just the banks the fed was traded to protect but the hedge funds, investment banks, and insurance conglomerate. john: are you committing in this interview that you're not going to let any of these banks fail. the matter what theiks like thet going to fail. >> they're not going to fail. john: we have the doctrine too big to fail. implied before, but now it was real. it was believed that the fed saved us from another depression an economist from the university of georgia cities this. they say this to mind told. >> they did not save us. first of all, we have had a recession, and a really bad one. it is now over f

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john: he has a point. all of the discretionary spending. >> it is important to emphasize with mandatory spending that is about to kick in. this is another increase of the one way ratchet that will kick in on january january 1st. that is what we try to prevent is expanding the entitlement state that many are saying it is unsustainable even before obamacare. the least we can do to protect the american people is to protect them from more expansion of government that we cannot afford. john: thank you senator lee. know i am told is shutting down government is terrible for the economy. simply not paying the government workers takes off the gdp he says there that customers of the business in this country and it sounds enormous if you listen to him but economist aten powell says the opposite is true. the shutdown could be good for america. >> first of get some perspective if mcdonald's laid off 40 percent of non food production workers and closed up the drive through it and stop putting the toy is is the happy mea

john: that's our show tonight. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> and here is john stossel's. americans schoolchildren have been caught in a double run monopoly. it is not for lack of ney, we have tripled what we have spent on k-12 education by test scores do not allow. the good news is there are all kinds of alternatives at allow kids to escape the government cannot wait. but here is one word that you will be interested in. it is because it was created none other than libertarian congreman ron paul. were homeschoolers, introducing the ron paul curriculum, which is what? >> it is a freedom curriculum,. >> you're not going to go into every home and teach. how and were? >> it is going to be through the internet. it is studying the constitution, not from the textbooks, but they will have a lecture to do video lectures at the young people can watch at their own speed. it is going to be designed to get people to read and get people to write and to think about businesses and how to interact. so i'm very encouraged by this and now hopefully we can participate in this in our public sc

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i like john boehner. i happen to think that he is a good american and wants the government to really do what we're supposed to be doing. is that we're helping people where people can't be helped any further by their own initiatives. i personally believe he is in for a sad awakening next year. and i would like him to stand up and say let's have a clean vote on the budget. that is what we need right now. let's get on with the other issues of the debt and the other issues of where this country is going in terms of its investments. if you look at the last four months in terms of economic growth. if you look at the housing prices and where mortgages are going and where -- now we have a decline, thank god, in foreclosures. we're going in the right direction. but these republicans don't want this president to succeed. and that is where it is at. people are not dumb. they can understand this. i support the health care act, i think it is going to work. they don't want it to be successful. why not? should they have

>> in terms of what, john? you know the minority leader nancy pelosi was asked at the very end of that bit that we got to watch together, whether or not there's any ground even a minor ground that they would give on obamacare and she actually before answering looked at one of her colleagues, i don't know if it was van holland or another one, she said no, there's not any ground we are going to give, it was a simple answer. the more they are there saying this is what the senate voted against, everything we send to them, we just want the budget, the budget shouldn't have obamacare attached to it. unless and until we have that, we are going to reject everything that's sent over. i don't know what else they can do. i think it was ali or mike viqueira who said, they just should do nothing. i don't think there's anything else they can do. >> mike do you think striking a balance is important for the democrats at this point? >> i think the democrats feel they have got the republicans on the run in a tough spot. i attend

that is what john was doing.e have heard our government say these men are innocent, they were doing their jobs, they must be released right now. that is what we're waiting for. we're waiting here that clear, unequivocal statement from our prime minister and foreign minister. we're also waiting to hear that if they continue to be ignored in -- and disregarded by the egyptian government, which has been what has been happening so far, then it will be role consequences. we heard just for the first time yesterday from our foreign minister that there will be consequences. he didn't outline what kind of consequences. we would like to hear those consequences outlined. our foreign minister and our prime minister have more power than just issuing statements and making phone calls. there's a huge amount of trade back and forth between canada and egypt. there are a lot of canadian companies that are clamoring to get into egypt right now. to engage in mineral extraction. your was a little miniconference since john and tarek a

i'm john siegenthaler in new york. tonight americans are watching the clock and watching washington. >> the idea of putting the american people's hard-earned progress at risk is the height of irresponsibility and it doesn't have to happen. >> a warning from president obama. the impact felt on wall street as the markets tumble on shutdown fears. what else could happen if lawmakers can't agree. colorado flood victims might have to wait for federal help. and the impact on u.s. military bases where civilians could be facing furlough. ♪ >>> the u.s. government is now hours away from a shutdown. it hasn't happened in 17 years. today democrats and republicans were blaming each other as president obama warned the country about the consequences of failing to fund the federal government. mike viqueira joining us live from capitol hill with the latest. mike? >> john there is no deal at this point. president obama called all four leaders of congress, basically laid down the law once again, he would not allow obamacare to be held h

that night, john's immediate boss, mike mctighe, a former marine, asked john to dinner. >> riordon: and arrived and i was picking up my knife and fork and he's making small talk, and then he suddenly... he says, "you know, john, one of us has to go back." and i put down my... >> stahl: oh! >> riordon: ...knife and fork and pushed that steak back, and i can feel tears coming out of my eyes. and he said, "would you go back?" >> stahl: go back even though it meant losing his job, possibly losing his life. and yet, 11 days before saigon would fall, the mild-mannered banker defied his bank and better judgment, caught the very last commercial flight into saigon, and walked into the branch. >> riordon: and everybody comes running around me and said, "what do we do? what do we do? how are we going to get out of here?" and everything. >> stahl: but you're there under the authority of who? you're not working for citibank. >> riordon: no one. no one. on my own. >> stahl: on his own authority, john moved them, with their families-- all 105 of them-- into his villa and another one nearby so they'd a

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. >> john stanton, washington bureau chief, buzzfeed. john, thank you for being with us. that does it for us right now. this is ongoing. what you are watching now the vote in the house to end the government shutdown and avert the debt ceiling crisis that the treasury department says would hit tomorrow. we are done to the skin of our teeth, as a nation. as this vote comes in right now in the house of representatives. that does it for us tonight. we will see you live at midnight for the layest from washington. now time for the last word from lawrence o'donnell. >>> this is our continuing live coverage of the vote in the house of representatives at this very minute. the vote that will end the government shut down. that will indeed raise the debt ceiling. that vote comes on a day when the speaker of the house john boehner was in effect forced to declare his official surrender. the republicans in the house of representatives who are trying to force president obama into compromises did not get their way. speaker boehner had to lead those republicans to this vote that's taking p

that's john boehner. >> was that you, howard dean? >> this is sam. >> go ahead. >> i wanted to say this internal republican caucus mellow drama, they don't exist in a vacuum. i understand he needed to solidify his control over the house and maybe playing this out was the way to do it but in the process many thousands of lives were disrupted and many people were hurt in their personal lives and professional lives. we talked to a number of scientists whose research may have been damaged because they couldn't operate in the government run facilities they normally use. these are not things you should take as power struggling or political manipulation there are costs to these decisions. s & p said it was $24 billion in lost economic activity. was this worth playing this out? >> those are tough -- >> let's go to gene robinson on this. what is the country's verdict going to be on the $24 billion cost of the lesson that john boehner had to teach young republicans? >> well, look, the country's verdict is clear. every poll we've seen shows that

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