johnson. >> thank you, madam chair. i appreciate you holding this hearing. this is, i think, an extremely important issue. i think it's a tragedy that we've enticed our children to ip cu now about $1.2 trillion in student loan debt collectively. i had a finance professor in college before we ever talk about cost of capital and all the complex be issues with corporate finance, he spent a day just talking about personal finance. the reason they call a debt a bond is because when you go into debt, you put yourself into bondage, and you want to avoid that. so i certainly took that to heart. i, of course, had the advantage of growing up and going to college in the '70s when college was a lot cheaper. worked full time and rather than leaving college with close to $0,000 this debt, i -- $30,000 in debt, i left with clash 7,000 in the wang -- $7,000 in the bank. i've actually been using this in my powerpoint presentation as i travel around the state of wisconsin. just laying out some facts and and a little food for thought here. what this chart shows is that in 1963