. >> joining me is jon campbell. good to have you with us. >> good to be here. >> your initial thoughts on the kidnapping? >> well, the first question i have is: who did it? the chieftan or the war lord that is most often associated with boka haram, a person by the name of abubukarshakaw has been silent. >> that's against their mo. they usually claim responsibility. >> on the bus station of abuja. but they have been silent on this. boka haram is highly diffuse. it is not centralized. there is -- there are many, many different layers or factions within it so that who exactly did it is a big question. then there is a question of: where are they? the sambiza forest is sometimes cited. one should not think, though, as the zambiza forest as like a jungle. it's not. it's more like bush or scrub. and i think it would be pretty hard to hide more than 200 people in it. so where are they? i don't know. >> it is a mystery. i know the nigerian president has come under fire. what problems, issues, does this kidnapping highlight i