the bbc's jon donnison can join us now from ramallah. first of all, just how significant do you think this meeting is? oh, unfortunately for -- >> for six months now, and i think, you know, the fact is that many palestinians will not be holding their breath. more than five years and palestinians are pretty skeptical. most feel this division is really a distraction from their main grievance, which is, of course, israel's continuing occupation. so i don't think there's a great deal of anticipation. that said, the first time the two men have set down together in six months is very significant. >> what do you think might come out today? >> well, you're right. back in may, the two sides said they had done a unity deal and they were going to set about having some sort of interim government made up of independents that would work toward elections sometime next year. the fact is they soon started squabbling and couldn't agree on the name of who should be in that government. it's going to be interesting to see today whether they have any suggesti