editor in chief, jon gabriel.al analyst and former baltimore city crime reporter, she knows what she's talking about especially with this story, michelle ritchie and host of radical -- shane hazel, georgia libertarian governor candidate, the one and only shane hazel. >> but to be here. kennedy: jon gabriel, i will start with you. when an arsonist says why am i out? this is a horrible idea? maybe we are doing something wrong. >> i found in life i rarely agree with arsonist but i agree with this one, he's maker better points and people leaving the city right now. criminal justice reform is very important but doesn't mean you change the definition of criminal justice and it means justice not only for the accused, also for the victim as well so he's completely right, i'm writing him in for mayor if i ever moved to baltimore because he's right on the money, you have to give fair sentencing and treatment, not just completely ignore serious crimes putting people in baltimore at risk. kennedy: and there are a lot of peopl