notice provisions, and there are many definitions of notice, and i will ask deputy city attorney jon givner to opine about the definition of notice. >> mr. givner: deputy city attorney jon givner. i'm not sure whether in article 15 or elsewhere in the public works code, there's any requirement for the director of public works when providing mailed notice to do it by certified mail. i can check. you can certainly make this amendment next tuesday at the board. >> supervisor safai: yeah. i guess i started a little bit later through the chair. i started -- no longer a question to you, deputy city attorney, but my question would be i sounded like you had interns do a lot of research. one of my questions was how many, if any, have ever been -- how many major encroachments have not been revoked? and i would imagine because we're talking about, when often times -- just for the public's edification, i know you're aware of this. often times when you're doing development, some of that development leads into or has a relationship in the public right-of-way, and that's what the minor and major encroachm

givner: deputy city attorney jon givner. applicants can apply for multiple seats, and then, the board can kind of mix and match, deciding who fits into what seat, but i believe each person is applying to serve on a single seat. >> chair ronen: oh . i mean given that there are three assessment appeal boards, can a person serve on different boards? >> mr. givner: i don't believe so. >> chair ronen: okay. okay. thank you. and so mr. clerk, i'm sorry, are you asking if you want me to -- if you want me to ask you to read items three, four, and five together? >> clerk: yes. >> chair ronen: sure. >> clerk: item number four -- actually, item number three is a hearing to consider appointing two members, term ending september 6, 2021, two alternate members terms ending september 6, 2021, to the assessment appeals board number two, and item four is a hearing to consider appointing two members, term ending september 6, 2021, and two alternate members, term ending september, 2023. >> chair ronen: okay. the way i'll do this is i'll call u

givner: deputy city attorney jon givner. the board doesn't have the authority to place conditions on the permit. the state does, and so, the board could, if you were going to find public convenience and necessity here, the board could urge the state to adopt conditions of different hours. >> chair mandelman: looks like my colleagues do not object. >> thank you. i just wanted to say, my apologies for not consulting your office prior? i don't handle a lot of p.c.n. hearings, and i didn't realize that was the protocol. and i would have. i meant no disrespect by it. i appreciate any ability to work with us on this because it is a successful business model, but they're an innovative company, and they've taken a huge expense to operate out of 1 grant avenue. the intent is not to have a bustling bar up there all day. it's a separate area of the mezzanine. i'm not sure if diagrams were included in your packet. it's more of an additional experience to the piece, to your point. it's not going to replace what the current attraction of

. >> supervisor peskin: and through the chair, to deputy city attorney jon givner, the history of loans from m.o.h. without board of supervisors approval and is, indeed, that is what section 9.118 of the charter requires? >> mr. givner: yes. yes, the -- these loans should be coming to the board if they're ten years or $10 million, and as miss campbell said, we have recently looked back as past loans of mohcd, that 9.118 requires them to come to the board. >> supervisor peskin: thank you for rendering that advice, even if it's a fru decades late -- few decades late, but i would still like to know how many loans were authorized without approval of the legislative branch as required under the charter, so i do want that. the second policy issue -- and by the way -- >> chair fewer: actually, i think it would be helpful for the mayor's office of housing to respond to that question. >> i don't know the exact number of loans that have not come to the board for approval. all of our new construction projects do come through the board for approval. the board has seen all of our new construction pr

givner: deputy city attorney jon givner. the way the ethics commission's bylaws are structured, which i think is atypical for many city commissions, the general comment can be both items that are appearing on today's agenda or not appearing on today's agenda, so it's okay for members of the public to comment on items that are appearing on the agenda. although typically, in these situations, the public comment comes with the agenda item. but mr. hill could speak on public financing now during general public comment and also speak on item five when public comment is called on that item. >> chair chiu: i see. okay. thank you. go ahead. >> thank you. my name's steven hill. i'm one of the original coauthors of the prop o, which was passed in 2000 that setup the public financing law in san francisco. and i was also involved in subsequent amendments in 2005-2006 to extend that to the mayor's office, and then also amendments in 2009 and 2012. so i have a long history with this, and i also was responsible for getting 15% of the publi