jon stewart. jon stewart back, of course, "the daily show" one day a week. he had a doozy of an opening last night. take a look. >> the footage of the president unable to recall simple facts must have been brutal to watch. >> james webb. >> i don't remember the names. i don't remember the name. i don't remember ever buying something for myself. >> do you recall what years you were married to ms. maples? >> um -- i mean, i don't remember that. as good as my memory is, i don't remember that. but i have a good memory. >> you don't remember saying you have one of the best memories in the world? >> i don't remember. [ cheers and applause ] >> sorry. that was the wrong -- that was the wrong footage. that's the high-functioning candidate from nine years ago, unable to recall if he has a good memory. >> yeah. now, he doesn't recall who the sitting president of the united states is. donny, i'm sorry, there's a lot to work with there. >> there's a lot, lot to work with. you know, you've got to -- for some reason, donald trump gets graded on a curve as far as his age, as far as his insanity, and, to your point, joe, yes, joe biden will stumble a little bit. joe biden, since he was a kid, he has a stutter. the other guy, not only is the other guy old, the other guy is insane. the things that come out of his mouth, it's not just a stutter. it is dangerous insanity. beyond getting biden out there more and letting him punch, you've got to show that contrast. right now, we have a binary choice. you have one guy who, yes, he's old, and, yes, he stutters a little bit. we have another guy who is old and, on any level, is dangerously sociopathically insane. >> yeah. >> that's the contrast. that's the choice. >> you have two old dudes that are running for president of the united states. one of them is old, deranged, crazy and wants to be a dictator. there you go. i've spent time with joe biden, as willie eluded to, at length. and anybody who has, especially about foreign policy, understands he's more on top of foreign policy and leaders and what to do than any politician i've met in washington, d.c., on the hill. it's just the truth. there are people here that we have on the show who are very good and understand what's going on right now. joe biden has 45 years of experience. he knows most of the leaders on the globe personally, from his time as vice president of the united states. and he uses all of that, whether he is working in the middle east right now, trying to figure out a way forward with a two-state solution, or whether he is working in ukraine, working with russia, trying to figure out how to move forward in that situation, as well. same thing with china. he and xi knew each other when they were both the number two people in their country. it makes a difference. we saw that at the san francisco meeting. that experience makes a difference. the big lie of experience, we'll talk about a big lie there, that a president doesn't need experience, that donald trump can just wing it and throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks and what doesn't stick, it is extraordinarily dangerous. we saw that. it ended in a riot on january 6th. ended in a riot. are we really going to do that again? well, you know, there have been questions about joe biden, and questions arose especially after the release of robert hur's report on president biden's handling of classified documents. it's amplified scrutiny about the president's age. in a new exclusive interview with vice president kamala harris for "the wall street journal," two days before the hur report came out, harris says she is, quote, ready to serve. the general writes, quote, "there is no question about that. harris responded bluntly. everyone on the job walks away fully aware of my capacity to lead." lest bring in right now reporter for "the wall street journal who conducted the interview. thank you so much for being with us, tarini parti. what was your takeaway from the vice president. >> thanks for having me. the vice president is ready to serve. of course, this question normally doesn't come up as much for vice presidents, but this is something she is having to face because she is vice president to the oldest president. now, with this hur report, this is going to keep coming up for her as republicans try to make this an issue on the campaign trail. the other thing that was interesting from my interview with her and i spent a lot of time talking to her about abortion and the way she's talking about abortion rights. this is an issue that, a rare issue that democrats have an advantage on that we've seen in polls, and it is way she's talking about is it especially interesting because she's not really holding back. she's getting into pretty explicit details in a way we don't usually see elected officials do. she said part of that is trying to get people to feel some empathy and to see what is actually going on in these states. she's using that sort of former prosecutor background. she's worked on sexual assault cases to really get her message out. you know, i asked her if she feels like she needs to convince voters she's ready, and she shut that down and said she feels ready and thinks voters can see it while she's on the campaign trail, on this issue of abortion rights. >> tarini, mara gay with "the new york times." the president has been on the trail a lot lately. do you expect you'll see a different role for her if joe biden does win re-election? is she doing anything special behind the scenes, too, that maybe the public isn't aware of to prepare in the eventuality that she would have to step up, god forbid? >> we have seen her take on more of a national security type portfolio. she has been involved in, you know, advising the president on the war in the middle east. she's been on calls with benjamin netanyahu. she has been pushing the administration to adopt sort of a more empathetic posture towards palestinians. and to focus more on a post-war gaza plan. we know she's talking about that more. she gave the big speech in dubai a few weeks ago. she's taking on more of a national secure portfolio. she's also now leading the white house office on gun violence prevention. they are trying to give her more visibility as these questions about the president's age keep coming up. of course, now with this special counsel report, they're going to become an even bigger campaign issue. >> tartarini, as we've been talg about how much or how little we'll see joe biden himself on the campaign trail given all these questions about his performance and age and all of that from some people, do you get the sense from vice president harris herself or from people around her, from the campaign, that we're going to be seeing much more of her perhaps in places that the president won't be? >> i definitely think so. she told me she plans on being everywhere. she said she rested up in december because she knew she was going to be on the road constantly between now and november. we've seen her do a lot of that. she has been traveling a lot. i was with her in georgia and in wisconsin. right now, she's focusing more on abortion rights. like i said, that is an issue that is one of the few issues that can energize democrats right now. she's also talking about, of course, gun violence prevention and, you know, other issues that democrats can get excited about, especially voters who are more progressive, minority voters, younger voters. these are the types of demographics that the white house feels she can especially appeal to in a way that maybe the president can't. >> national politics reporter at "the wall street journal," tarini parti, thanks so much. we appreciate it. donny deutsch, thank you, as well. >> willie, before i go, just a second, i want to pick up where joe was. >> go ahead. >> democrats have to get pissed. joe biden has done a great job. joe biden has overseen the best economy in my lifetime. he has overseen getting nato together and defending ukraine. handling israel deftly, keeping this country coming out of covid. he's done everything right. the other guy is insane. joe biden is 80 plus years old. yes, he is. he has been a competent, effective leader. the democrats need to get pissed and start fighting. >> all right. from your words -- from your mouth to their ears, donny deutsch, thanks so much. >>> ahead on "morning joe," president biden's re-election campaign officially launches a tiktok account. new polling may explain the reason behind that move. >>> plus, the world health organization warning about a rise in cases of measles. we'll talk to a health expert about that growing concern. >>> also ahead, our next guest is taking a look at the deep divisions in america today and how people can find common ground with their neighbors. pulitzer prize winning author david finkle joins us next with his new book. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. at bombas, we're obsessed with socks. tees. and underwear. because your basic things should be your best things. one purchased equals one donated. visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. i told myself i was ok with my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that can rapidly relieve joint pain, stiffness, and swelling in ra and psa. relieve fatigue for some... and stop joint damage. and in psa, can leave skin clear or almost clear. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin; heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. people 50 and older with a heart disease risk factor have an increased risk of death. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. done settling? 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>> i want to be careful. it is not an anti-trump or pro-trump book or anti-biden or pro-biden. those books are out there. this is about the slow, corrosive effect on a guy who -- i think if brent were here, he'd describe himself this way. he is a little more republican than democrat. he's a little more conservative than liberal. he's this man in the middle. that makes him an appealing character to me because what was bothering him, it's not trump's policies as much as trump's behavior. the vulgarism, the lies. brent was brought up in a certain way to believe that if you act decently, if you're a moral person, you have a chance at a pretty good life. good things happen to you. at the same time, trump was being elected. and brent's father, so much of the man he turned out to be, brent's father was dying of cancer. brent was watching this. as trump was going up and his father was going down, brent had been taught, if you live a good life, you're going to succeed. here his father was dying, and this guy who brent doesn't really like very much was ascending to the highest office in the land. brent was thinking, what's going on here? i was taught that bad people fail, and he's not failing. >> brent's country, david, is his front porch, his pickup truck, driving on a saturday morning to a gun range to shoot decoys, and he does very well at it. he goes back to his front porch in a country that's changing around him. he wore the uniform of the country, fought for the country. where is he today mentally? >> he's still trying to figure out what the country is becoming, as are we all. it's so fraught and it's so loud, and i think his porch offers him a little respite from the noise going on, where he can try to slowly make some sense of what his country is becoming. i don't want to keep harping on this, but that was a tough deployment he was in. the whole unit, it was difficult. >> high casualty rate. >> against that, this is a guy who acted so decently. a quick example. sorry to talk about something so long ago, but it matters. there was a day, for instance, when an iraqi national who was serving as an interpreter in the unit went off the fob, back to baghdad to see his family, and suddenly, he's on the phone, calling brent. he's panicked. he doesn't know what to do because there was a huge, huge truck bomb that blew up yoit outside his apartment building, wrecked the building. this wonderful guy, izzy, was outside on the street. daughter in his arms. she was bleeding. he didn't know what to do. he had nowhere to take her. he was asking brent, what do i do? what do i do? brent, this girl had no standing on american military base, but brent figured out a way to get izzy out of that part of baghdad, into the eastern edge where this fob was. he worked the phones so that when the guy got there with his daughter, he could come inside. he ran out to meet izzy. sun is setting, everything was about to be locked down. brings izzy in, gets him to the medical area, and he's just sitting there with -- brent and izzy are sitting outside. inside, i mean, they're pulling this huge piece of glass out of her head and saving her life. izzy is saying, "thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you." brent is just saying, "i haven't felt this good since i got to this hell hole." that behavior is what guided him through the four-year period i followed him, 2016 to 2020, when he was trying to make sense of what to do. now, brent lives next door, for instance, to a guy named michael. they're next door neighbors. they get along. michael, total -- he is a great guy. he is a total maga guy, in as deep as you can get. brent was thinking, how do i find common ground with this guy? 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is he having a leakage? the fact that he is expected to return work today is great sign. >> yeah, expected to resume full time duties today. more transparency this time around than last time, of course, when the secretary went to the hospital, didn't even tell the white house tore three days. >>> another store rit. public health official concerned about a recent spike in cases of measles in the united states and around the world according the world health organization measles cases worldwide rose by 189% from 2021 to 2022 due to declining vaccination rates. in 2022, 83% of children received one dose of the measles vaccine by their first birthday. that is the lowest rate since 2008. dr. gupta, is this what it seems, all the conspiracy theories around the covid vaccine leading to skepticism about all vaccines? >> well, willie, it seems like it. my swief a pediatrician. we see this before our eyes in washington state across the west coast. what's really behind this is exemptions. we know this. we have kiddos at home. the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine is a mandated vaccine. one dose for kiddos in preschool, two doses for k through 12. that's the expectations in every zip code across the country. we are seeing a movement towards non-medical non-religious exemptions. ten states exemptions. there is a lot of unvaccinated individuals, children specifically, that may travel to an area where measles is epidemic or worse internationally, bring it back. that's what's driving this and frankly we don't see any decline to at trend in those states, ten states we expect that number to rise, but that's what's driving this. >> dr. gupta, can you speak as a physician and maybe even your wife, her point of view as a pediatrician, about the frustration in the medical community about these disease it is that we had licked, frankly, talking about measles, talking about polio, thanks to that medical research, thanks to doctors, thanks to these vaccines, now sort of rearing hair heads again because of vaccine skepticism? >> well, willie, the frustration knows no bounds. we are seeing a 30 fold increase. this has real consequences. in the united states a measured increase in hospitalizations. in europe a 30 field increase in hospitalizations. a spike five times increase in deaths. i mean, this is having real consequences on people. it doesn't just restrict itself to childhood infectious diseases or viruses for which there are preventible vaccines. adult vaccines which we saw higher up takes like flu, persistent declines in the flu vaccine. that's having impacts for the cold and flu season. we are seeing it across the board, a pediatrician, adult pulmonologist, our health system can't tolerate this dynamic and we don't see any decline to this trend. >> skepticism for vaccines that have been proven effective and safe in generations in some cases, accident skim coming their way. big picture on covid. we are coming up here shortly an that period in february and march of 2020, four years ago, the world changed forever. how are we doing here in the united states with covid which is still around? >> it is. today is an interesting day. the cdc moved towards redefining in a pretty big way isolation rules if you test positive for covid-19. frankly, the streamline, returning to work. and i think it's their -- their movement towards acknowledging what we see happening around us, which people test positive and frankly resume normal life within a matter of a few dies, not five days. what is that emblematic of? of covid-19 not rearing nearly the same impact in hospitalizations. we are seeing flu come down. we are seeing the worst of covid. it affairs to have abated. hopefully, it looks like we are past the worst of it. i will say there is encouraging, hopefully, encouraging signs optimistic signs for next cold and flu season. we are seeing this movement towards at home flew vaccines. hopefully, astrazeneca is looking to actually allow us to get easier access to flu vaccines at home. hope flew that's helpful. combination vaccines. hopefully, helpful. there are bullish signs ahead maybe we can get past some of this hesitancy, but a lot of work to do. >> we will thak as good news. medical contributor dr. vin gupta who has been our guide these last four years. great to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, voters today will choose a replacement for ousted republican congressman george santos in a special house election in new york. we'll talk about the national implications with the chair of the d triple c as democrats try to win back ounce of those battleground districts lost in 2022 that denied the party a majority in the lower chamber. 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[ cheers and applause ] >> all right. that was the wrong footage. that's the high functioning candidate from nine years ago unable to recall if he has a good memory. >> okay. you are going to have to rewind that because we are going to play that again. willie, he doesn't -- good morning, willie. >> good morning. >> he doesn't remember saying that he has one of the best memories. he doesn't remember who james webb is. there are so many things the guy doesn't remember, and again it's -- it's like everything else. double standards are just -- are so egregious, and yet you have donald trump again over the weekend thinking he is running against barack obama, confusing it. >> yeah. yeah. i know. it's bizarre. he doesn't know the day of the week, he doesn't know who he is running against, the details of his time as president. it's -- it is. and the fact is, his gavs, if you want to call them that, are weightier than jonas brothers, which is to say -- >> right. >> oh, yes, i would make the nato countries pay protection money or let russia attack them. for example, might be a little bit worse than a slip of the tongue. so the idea that these are being presented as equivalent is pretos rouse. nice to see jonow through the presidential election. ahead here, we will have the very latest from capitol hill where house republicans will again try today to impeach the homeland security secretary. meanwhile, in a special election in new york today, it's an important one because it could shrink the gop's majority in the lower chamber. as long island voters decide who is going to replace george santos along with me we have the host of "way too early" jonathan lemire, co-host of msnbc's "the weekend" former chairman of the national republican committee, michael still. nbc news national affairs analyst john highland and congressional investigations reporter for "the washington post" jackie. i'm curious, t.j., do we have it cued back up? >> yes, sir. >> okay. for everybody now that you're here, watch this. >> the footage of the president unable to recall simple facts must have been brutal to watch. >> james webb? >> i don't remember names. i don't remember the names. i don't remember ever buying somet