kennedy were there. on a larger stage, he managed to get us out of the crisis. >> and had he not -- when he came into the presidency, jon was absolutely right. they have more expertise than me, bay of pigs was a good idea, who am i to differ with that, and he was shown they can all be really stupid, so by the time of the cuban crisis and later, he felt my judgment is actually better, and so is my brother's body's, and threw the missile crisis, you can hear on the tape is one of the most horrifying things is the second kennedy walked out of the room having said we are going to do a blockade, you hear these joint chiefs saying this is munich, this is chamberlain, he is selling us out, and you did not have a president willing to stand up to suppose that expertise, we would have had a disaster, which brings us to what might have happened at the time of vietnam. >> one of the greatest lines is, gentlemen, let's take a break for dinner. >> the cubans shoot down an american plane, and the united states has said if they do this, we are going to invade, we are going to om, and someone comes in enhance a note to mcnamara, and mcn