jon meacham, thank you, as well.e the facts, if you value leadership, by all estimates, this president is not good at his job. it is a struggle at this point. if you want to know more about that, i suggest watching his press conferences, like jon meacham said, from beginning to end. watch how he is so loose with the facts and sometimes actually lies to the american public in the middle of a pandemic. also, read jon meacham's piece in the "new york times" and think about this as we move forward. >>> ahead, we'll talk to mayor bill de blasio, bracing for a surge of new cases in new york city. he'll have the latest developments straight ahead. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. back. ♪ ♪ ♪ the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps. this is my body of proof. ♪ proof i can fight moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis

so final thoughts from willie geist and jon meacham?ing for his team, the reality from the front lines is bad. the data from johns hopkins shows america is faring badly and the testing is not even close to where it should be. so i'm praying that they all get on the same page. willie? >> and i would just say briefly, jon meacham, that the confirmation this morning from prime minister boris johnson that he, in farkct, has tested positive for coronavirus shows you how quickly this moves, how quickly things change. a couple of weeks ago he was, let's say, less than concerned about it in his country and now he has contracted coronavirus. >> jon meacham? >> and the american -- look, america benefits from the fact that we're the fullest manifestation of the enlightenment and of reason and of fact and let's follow reason and fact, not ideology. >> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >>> hi there. i'm stephanie ruhle. it is friday, march 27th. and here's what's happening today. as of this morning, t

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and historian author of the soul of america and professor jon meacham. he's an nbc news and msnbc contributor. the white house announced a $2 trillion piece of legislation aimed at helping the free falling u.s. economy from the coronavirus. we're going to dig into that bill and what it does for americans in desperate need of help. and as joe mentioned, president trump continues his push to on the country back up for business now putting an easter sunday target date for his hopes of an economic resurrection. that, despite dire warnings from health officials on how dangerous that 2 1/2 week schedule would be. and new york city, that timeline for people in new york state which has now surpassed 26,000 as coronavirus cases in the state double every three days, the state marks almost half of the nationwide infection numbers. and as the death rate there continues to climb, governor andrew cuomo warned yesterday that the fight to flatten the curve is far from over. >> we haven't flatten the curve and the curve is actually increasing. the apex is higher than we

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and tonight is one of those nights for jon meacham, presidential historian, pulitzer prize-winning author the last word of jesus christ from the cross." jon, we don't anything quite that lofty tonight but i was thinking about you today because if we're not careful, people are going to start reading history books. people are issuing kind of vague exhortations about all this company has been able to do and pull off over the years, most of it in the name of warfare. and i was thinking about willow run, which was once an auto assembly line, but once it was converted, you can make an argument it helped us win the second world war by producing a new b-24 every hour. talk about that part of the american spirit that we haven't tapped into to make a single train in the last 40 years. >> that's exactly right. you know, franklin roosevelt would pick those numbers off the top of his head. he would say, we're going to make 10,000 planes a week, and i think it was sam rosenman, his speechwriter said, where did you get that number, sir? he said, i made it up. but we did it. and we're in a situation, i t

jon meacham, by the way, i have no doubt there were people who spit out their cheerios across the table this morning when mika said donald trump made being a parent easier yesterday. something i know. if you had a bingo sheet of things you were going to predict mika brzezinski was going to say on the show, that would not be on the first 50 sheets printed, right? >> no, it wasn't. >> it was interesting. no, it was not. but it was very interesting. we have, you know, quite a few children between us, 87, 88, who still wanted to go out to restaurants. who still wanted to go out and do things every day. who, every day, made us say, no, you can't do that. no, you need to stay at home. no, we need to socially separate. no, i don't care if your friend's stupid parents are having parties at restaurants. you can't go. it is very interesting, that after three years of political norms being shattered, we saw yesterday, when used correctly, the power of the bully pulpit. when the president of the united states, whoever the president of the united states is, says, no more than ten people should be to

people like joe scarborough, people are saying, jon meacham saying that this could lead to a depression. >> how does he know that? >> laura: at this is what is sending people to the grocery store to buy 100 pallets of water. >> there is no way to know whether it would lead to a depression, whether in some ways there could be conflicting things that help the economy, money and health care and every thing else. a lot of people overestimated 9/11, i didn't. i overestimated the estimate. i didn't consider all of the relief work that was going to be done that pumped up the economy and created jobs in other areas. these are predictions that are made from bias. not from intelligence. >> laura: we need transparency and facts and hope. and sometimes, every now and then some humor. i think we need that too. >> and a lack of pandering would be good. >> laura: rudy, thank you. good to see you tonight. up next, coronavirus has change the way people are interacting. novel new greetings emerging, we need some. raymond arroyo has all the detail in "seen and unseen" ne next. >> tech: don't wait for a ch

back with us tonight, presidential historian and pulitzer prize-winning biographer jon meacham. his newest work, which is available now, is "the hope of glory: reflections on the last words of jesus from the cross." jon, it's not hard to find people who have no interest in the federal government, who don't think they rely on it, who don't trust the federal government increasingly more and more. and yet a point rachel made earlier, it is the organization, it is the institution on which we are relying for guidance right now, and you don't realize it's not there until you don't get the guidance you're looking for. >> exactly. it's the basic social contract that we've had really from the beginning. we had huge debates in the 1780s and 1790s through the civil war about the relative role of the federal government. but since 1933, we've had a basic sense in this country that the federal government had a genuine and ambient role to play in our lives. and even the most conservative among us have accepted the notion that an institution like the federal government needs to be competent. it

>> jon meacham? >> and the american -- look, america benefits from the fact that we're the fullest manifestation of the enlightenment and of reason and of fact and let's follow reason and fact, not ideology. >> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >>> hi there. i'm stephanie ruhle. it is friday, march 27th. and here's what's happening today. as of this morning, the united states now has the highest number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus across the entire world. that number is roughly 86,000, surpassing the number of cases in china and italy. the united states death toll is now over 1200. but that is not the highest. china, italy, france, spain and iran have all seen more deaths from this pandemic. and we learned this morning that boris johnson, the prime minister of britain, has tested positive, just days after prince charles got the same diagnosis. back in this country, the number of cases continues to rise. but president trump is still pushing ahe

but i'm going jon meacham's "soul of america."finally manuela from new york asks what's one positive thing you can take from this week, morgan? >> seeing the way everyone has come together to deliver food for the kids who need it. >> and the people singing from the balconies in italy. >> love that. >> there you go. they're on lockdown but it's not going to stop the italians from singing. we've got more of your sunday today mug shots this week. thank you. brady in lakewood ranch, florida, sailor, carson and their dog teddy, lori in little rock and cameron standing in front of america's last blockbuster video sto inre >>> good sunday morning. it is march 15th. a live look outside. a beautiful look at the golden gate bridge from our sutro tower camera. we are under a micro climate weather alert, the second morning in a row. >>> thanks so much for joining us. i'm kira klapper. we have a look at our micro climate forecast. hi there, rob. >>> good morning. we're starting to see a few more of those showers approaching. cloudy skies, uppe

. >> our friend, the historian and author jon meacham, is with us and we can't possibly talk to jon meachamresident, without noting what happened last night. jon, we're so saddened. the loss of life was 25. that's the last number i remember seeing. those of us with friends like you in nashville were checking the damage against maps of the city, and first of all, tell us how your town is doing. >> resilient as ever. you know, ten years ago there were devastating floods. tragically and bizarrely, some of the same neighborhoods that were hit last night were also hit 30 years ago and 20 years ago. it's an odd and sad fact. but these are the best people in the world, and people are rallying around, and we appreciate everybody's concern. >> well, we've been thinking about all of you. and on to the subject of the night. what if i had told you two weeks ago that the american south would rise to an extent for joe biden to rewrite this race? >> what i find so fascinating about this is it's a vote for normalcy, an old phrase from the 1920s in our politics. it's a sense that as insane as everything has

. >> i notice at the front of the show, jon meacham has pointed out, we managed to hold a national election surely, we can figure it south amid what is admittedly a challenging crisis for us. for klobuchar, thank you very much. our best wishes to john. >> thank you for getting the facts out there. thanks. >> of course. >>> joinering me now professor of epidemiology at ucla or former director of disease control and prevention for los angeles county dr. robert kim farley and president former director for the emerging threats at the u.s. agency at international development dr. dennis carroll. thank you both for being here tonight. dr. carroll, let me start with you. i just want to reference again those numbers that we heard from the president of the united states earlier this estimate of 100,000 to 200,000 deaths in this country if we do everything right going forward from here. what is your take with your perspective, your expert perspective on what that means? >> well, thank you. first off, to declare the death of 200,000 people a victory is appalling. china, a country of 1.2 billion. three-

. >> first i think someone said the other day, i think jon meacham, if anyone thinks we understand americanwrong. it's gotten to a point it's ever-changing and we can't predict anything. clean slate. the path is to go into states where you can put together a combination of obviously strength, working class voters, with progressive voters, with latino voters as a base that describes a lot of places including new york. that describes pennsylvania. in large measure that describes michigan. put together that combination and then build it out. because that next debate, by the way, tune in, everybody. you're going to have the biggest contrast you've seen in a long time on march 15th and that's going to reverberate outward into everything thereafter and no one in the world can tell me this election will be decided before the next debate. so you're going to see pure contrast. what elizabeth warren did to michael bloomberg, different situation, but one debate changed the world versus hundreds of millions of dollars. that next debate's going to be crucial. >> wow. >> do you think your candidate, next