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i want tbrl historian jon meacham, host of the podcast fate of fact. he occasionally advises president biden as well. jon, thank you. good to see you. let's talk about the senate gop. they're choosing trump and insurrectionists over finding the truth. that's what your podcast is about. that's what you're doing right now. what does this mean for our democracy, jon, as we watch live pictures of the senate floor? >> it's potentially fatal, which is not something i would have said five years ago. i think the conversation about what speaker ryan has said and occasional voices is a lot too little, a lot too late. this is no longer about a fringe having a disproportionate influence. this is about the fringe dominating and now organically taking over the mainstream of one of our two major parties to the point where it's no longer a mainstream. it is, in fact, a trump party. and the problem for the rest of us is that because of the way the constitution is seleoral college, because of the organic constitutional developments since the 1790s, we need two functionin

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jon meacham weighs in. he is next. ♪ ♪ life can be a lot to handle. but there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪so different and so new.♪ ♪was like any other...♪ cal: our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ ♪ ♪ security at your fingertips. control feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. >>> the assault on truth in this country taking another turn as gop leader kevin mccarthy tries to bring down the january 6 commission before it even gets started. it's the latest attempt to whitewash the insurrectionists. some republicans outright deny the reality of what happened. joining me now is presidential historian jon meacham, the host of the podcast fate of fact. it's good to see you, sir. thanks for joining. so it has been a little more than four months since the insurrection, the worst attack on our capitol this country has ever seen at t

joining me now is jon meacham, presidential historian and the host of fate of fact podcast.ed a series of quotes, saying history is one of two things, it's either information or it's palliative to sort of create patriotism and make people feel good. to me american history has been taught as the latter. all of my adult life and way long before that, why do you think people are freaking out so much that people want to teach it as accurate fact? >> yeah. i will say this, as a native tennesseean and a resident of the state, 1925 we decided to not teach another theory called evolution. and that didn't work out very well in the long run. so whenever the tennessee legislature gets into trying to ban free speech and the exploration of new ideas, we should be very wary. look, there's -- it's possible that the pendulum, the spectrum for informed, reason-based conversation could be out of whack, but it's been out of whack on the white -- prevailing white narrative for more than 2 1/2 centuries. so the fact that critical race theory, and the 1619 project, are part of the conversation no

eastern, biographer jon meacham on the life and legacy of the late congressman and civil rights leader john lewis. saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, virginia tech professor jessica taylor on trade between native americans and collinists. and sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on the presidency, three programs on thomas jefferson, on the president's view of education, an interpretation conversation between jefferson and abigail adams and a tour of his gardens at monticello. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >>> next, we continue our look at the chinese in america with a visit to san francisco's chinatown. this is the second of a three-part series and we pick up the story with the discovery of gold in california in 1848. >> we have an unusual and remarkable situation here. gold is discovered in 1848 and the reason why cantoneese were the first to hear about it was because there was already some chinese here. thousands of men began to board ships to head to the gold mountain which california was known as then and still known as the gold mountain. in th

eastern, biographer jon meacham on the life and legacy of the late congressman and civil rights leader lewis. virginia tech professor jessica taylor on trade between native americans and the virginia colonists. sunday at 6:00 p.m. eastern on american artifacts a tour of richard nixon's birthplace located on the grounds of the richard nixon presidential library. and sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on the presidency three programs on thomas jefferson, on the president's view on education, an interpretation conversation between jefferson and abigail adams. and a tour of his gardens at mont cello. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >>> a look now at how u.s. supply chains have been disrupted by the covid-19 pandemic. over the next hour and a half, a senate commerce subcommittee asks transportation trade officials about what's needed to improve america's freight industry and the nation's infrastructure.

also with us, historian jon meacham, who is also a biographer of the late president.with us. i can't look at your title, "the man i knew" and not think of a 1988 op-ed i remember called "the george bush i knew," after it was "newsweek" that had some ridiculous cover, talking about the wimp factor and other people trying to tear this man down. somebody that had known bush a long time talked about riding with him in a plane where the door flew open, everybody panicked, he quietly reached over, closed the door, talked about walking out of a big contributor in west texas that was going to give him a ton of money, but wouldn't do it because they thought he was too racially insensitive and wouldn't take his money. time and time again, you hear that character is what you do when nobody's looking. time and time again, that's the man whose character shown, especially during those times. >> joe, mika, thank you so much for having me on. you sort of just captured the heart and soul of george herbert walker bush. part of the reason i wrote the book is, one, he left me so many ama

jon meacham is a renowned presidential historian contributing writer to the new york times book review contributing editor at time and pulitzer prize-winning author. he is also the national cathedral's canon historian elect. he is the author of his truth is marching on john lewis and the power of hope and in just a few moments. we'll hear a reflection from mr. meacham to start our conversation this evening. through tonight's conversation and particularly the sharing of stories and experiences. we are inviting our guests to share their honesty. authenticity and faith at a time when our country and our communities are in dire need of such a gift and we're so grateful. so in just a moment, i will offer an opening prayer mr. meacham will offer our reflection on congressman lewis's leadership. and then for the bulk of our time together dean hollareth will host our guests in conversation. during that time. we invite those of you who are watching at home to send your questions in either via the chat on youtube or through the link that will be shared there. we would love to hear your questions

eastern, biographer jon meacham on the life and legacy of the late congressman and civil rights leader lewis. saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, virginia tech professor jessica taylor on trade between native americans and the virginia colonists. sunday at 6:00 p.m. eastern on "american artifacts," a tour of richard nixon's birthplace located on the grounds of the richard nixon presidential library. >>> and sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on "the presidency," three programs on thomas jefferson, on the president's view on education, on interpretation conversations between jefferson and abigail adams, and a tour of his gardens at monticello. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this o weekend on c-span3.ntin >>> john dicken is with us, from the government accountability office, director of the public health and private markets division, here with us to talk about a newew study that was toa commissioned to look at the cost of prescription drugsshsh in the u.s. versus a number of other . countries. johnhn dicken, welcome to "washington journal." role d morning, thank you. >> tell

you are anything but boring, my friend, thank you for being here, that's jon meacham, "all in" with chris hayes starts now. >>> tonight on "all in". >> how do you grow the party with donald trump saying most illegal immigrants are rapists and drug dealers? >> lindsey graham finally answers his own question. >> can we move forward without president trump? i've determined we can't grow without him. >> tonight the abject republican surrender imperilling democracy, then, why mitch mcconnell is feeling heat after his brush with honesty. >> 100% of my focus is on stopping this new administration. >> plus, how did the federal elections commission let donald trump off the hook for the criminal conspiracy that sent -- to prison, i will ask federal elections commissioner ellen winetrout. why there's genuine alarm with the economic recovery after today's jobs report. "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening, i'm chris hayes, the republican party tried to sell both its base and the country ceo capitalism, the freer the market with paul ryan and mitt romney. perpetual global war with john mccain an

. >> thank you very much, jon meacham. >>> and next, the breaking news derek chauvin asking for a new trial. we have just obtained the official documents. so, is he on solid legal ground? >>> plus, the ceo of the nation's biggest bank warning there could be trouble around the corner when it comes to the nation's economy. the head of the federal reserve of minneapolis is out front. >>> and the steps one radio station is taking so that listeners never forget what happened on january 6th and the politicians who fuel it. >>> "erin burnett outfront," brought to you by ensure, for strength and energy. balanced nutrition for strength and energy. great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. [sfx: psst psst] 27 vitamins and minerals, allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good tonight... i'll be eating chicken tikka masala with garlic naan. [doorbell chimes] cheers. i win again, patrick. that's siiir patrick. oooooow. sir. because

meacham to the second podium. jon: thank you. i'm reminded of a story that ronald reagan used to tell when someone would call him when he was in hollywood and say, would you come speak at a benefit? reagan would say, i cannot sing or dance, why would you want me? they said, you can introduce someone who can. so, i am just here as an opening act. the story begins in troy, alabama. carter's quarters, to be precise. john lewis, for him, enslavement was not an abstraction. his great-grandfather had been born in 1862, before the emancipation proclamation freeing the enslaved people in the seceded states of the union went into effect on the first of january, 1863. for him, america's original sin of human enslavement was as real as his great-grandfather. frank carter, who lived until the congressman was eight years old. the story truly begins with john robert lewis' first memory, which is of his mother's garden. it was the first and most iconic of the many biblical realities and landmarks that would mark the channels of john lewis' life

beginning with biographer jon meacham, author of his truth is marching on, john lewis and the power of hope. watch tonight beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern and enjoy american history tv every weekend on c-span3. >>> c-span's washington journal every day we take your calls live on the air on the news of the day and we discuss policy issues that impact you. and coming up wednesday morning, a discussion on the supreme court's decision to hear a case from mississippi that some fear could undermine roe v. wade. the 1973 decision establishing a constitutional right to abortion with bloomberg law supreme court reporter kimberly robinson. and nevada democratic congresswomandina titus will talk about president biden's build back better programs and the vote in the house to establish a bipartisan commission to investigate the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. also, indiana republican congressman larry buchon will talk about the federal response to the coronavirus pandemic. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7 eastern wednesday morning and join with your phobe calls, facebook comments,

eastern biographer jon meacham on the life and legacy of the late congressman and civil rights leader john lewis. saturday at 8 p.m. eastern on lectures in history virginia tech professor jessica taylor on trade between native americans and the virginia colonists. sunday at 6 p.m. eastern on american artifacts a tour of richard nixon's birthplace located on the grounds of the richard nixon presidential library. and sunday at 8 p.m. eastern on the presidency, programs on thomas jefferson, on the president you an education and an interpretation conversation between jefferson and abigail adams. add a tour of his gardens at monticello. exploring the american story, american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >> joining us is derek johnson, the president and chair of the naacp. thank you very much for joining us this morning. want to begin with the debate on capitol hill yesterday on the senate side over voting rights legislation. first, your thoughts on this bill that passed

eastern, biographer jon meacham on the legacy of the late congressman and civil rights leader john lewisay at 8 p.m. eastern on lectures in history, virginia tech professor jessica taylor on trade between native americans and the virginia colonists sunday at 6 p.m. eastern on american artifacts, a tour of richard nixon's birthplace located on the grounds of the richard nixon presidential library. and sunday at 8 p.m. eastern on the presidency, three programs on thomas jefferson, on the president's view on education, and interpretation conversation between jefferson and abigail adams and a tour of his gardens at monticello. exploring the american story, watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3. ♪ ♪ >> "washington journal" continues. host: i half an hour before the house comes in and we will take you there live for gavel to gavel they do. in the meantime, in the wake of the cdc guidance yesterday, will you continue wearing a mask in public? as you call in, a preview of some action taking place right now within the house republican conference. scott long, good morning to you. it's

eastern, biographer jon meacham on the life and legacy of civil rights leader, john lewis.sunday at 6:00 p.m. eastern on american artifacts a. tour of richard nixon's birthplace located on the grounds of the richard nixon library. an interpretation conversation between jefferson and abigail adams.gton jou exploring the american story, watching american history tv we this weekend on c-span 3. >>> we're back with dr. jeremy levin the chair of the tent r organization and ceoig of

our friend jon meacham talks about not writing or thinking about historical figures as sort of thesewith a sense of place, too. flint, michigan, which is a far cry from conroe, texas, i can tell you. but there's a good deal in this book about history, myth and that horrible world called revisionism. but, yeah, we are drawn to figures that are alternatives to the old great man theory of history. i came of age as a high school teacher in the 1970s when we were inventing courses on black history whether we where i firs interested in frederick douglass. and a whole world opened up. over my lifetime of studying douglass, i came to realize, yes, he was a great man in 100 ways, but a fascinated, flawed human being. all humans are sometimes say. but it's part of this whole mixture of separating what we like to call history from what is mythology, and my god, you haven't went to william travis jr. high school, at least he went to junior american high school for poets so there wasn't any politics. lowell and whittier, didn't know of any. but we are about -- the jeffersons and hemingways and so

eastern, biographer jon meacham on the life and legacy of the late congressman and civil rights leadern lewis. saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, virginia tech professor jessica taylor on trade between native americans and collinists. and sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on the presidency, three programs on thomas jefferson, on the president's view of education, an interpretation conversation between jefferson and abigail adams and a tour of his gardens at monticello. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekendn