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you've heard from jon tester. senator warner is on that budget committee. he basically represents the manchin side of the democratic party. it really looks like all the boxes have been checked on both of these bills at this point. >> except writing the text of the entire thing. but certainly the framework for these bills and i think what people are willing to agree upon before going forward with the procedural votes is a boon for this administration. i think -- i mean president biden is right. people wrote off his ability to be ail to get this across the finish line. and, again, it's not there yet. but i think it goes to show that there is something to those phone calls that he's doing in private, lawrence. the conversations he's been having continuously that are not happening out in the open, he's not negotiating out in the open, and i think if he's able to get this across the finish line and provide these aspects of the care economy, which are absolutely essential, child care, paid leave, and care for our aging parents are needs that have come to the fore

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montana senator jon tester. senator, good to see you.on't often start an interview with you -- with you smiling. so, you and a lot of senators are actually feeling like this is a big accomplishment. so congratulations on that front. how do you address this other thing? this 800-pound gorilla in the room, the idea that this package, there are a lot of democratic progressives who say has to be paired with a much bigger reconciliation bill before they will support it. >> look. i think you need to take a look at each and -- and weigh 'em out, on -- on their own merits. this -- this bill is traditional infrastructure. i think it's what the country needs. and hopefully, we can get it through the senate with a good vote and get it to the house and they'll pass it to get it to the president's desk. and then, we have reconciliation and hopefully, we can get a reconciliation bill that meets the needs of america, whether it's childcare or housing or senior care or whatever it might be and make sure that it's paid for and move it along too. i will t

differences in the framework since they reached a deal with president joe biden last month, senator jon testeraid the group, which hopes to finish its negotiations this weekend, is still at an impasse over and funding for transit. the disagreement could sink the whole thing, said the montana democrat, who has been traditionally one of the more optimistic members of the negotiating team, but i don't think it is going to. so negotiations continue this weekend on that. we will keep you posted on any news out of the negotiations. watertown, tennessee, good morning to al on the independent line. caller: i have about three topics. the first is when you have these individuals like the president of the urban league on, the first question you need to ask is, who funds your organization, where is your money spent, how many full-time employees, and where are your offices? it is quite possible that some of your guests are the only employee. i think for disclosure, any of your guests to represent an organization, you try to find out on a consistent basis, these topics. the next thing is, you know, you clai

you just saw joe manchin and jon tester, the moderates among the democrats, the president has to tellhem you need to go a little higher. then he has the problem with others who say no, 3.5 trillion. what is the biggest test? >> to do a sufficient enough sales job to keep all of the democratic caucus open and on board to considering the agenda that has been crafted so far. like you mentioned, you have some of the more conservative, deficit-minded senators who are not easy with the $3.5 trillion figure even though they have indicated an openness to at least considering that. then you have to contend with people on the left who say that figure was not going to be enough. we wanted 6 trillion plus to go really broad to reform the government social safety net. the reporting shows in the senate it's not going to be an issue on the left, but it certainly will bubble up in the house. while president biden is trying to keep 50 democratic senators on board with the 3.5 trillion, he's also going to have to do a sales job on that bipartisan infrastructure framework. he's going to be talking with

today, montana's moderate democrat jon tester about -- said this about the 3.5 trillion dollar bill. >> there's a 3.5 trillion is not unreasonable. it's a lot of money, but if it spent appropriately, it will do this country a lot of good. >> today president biden said he is confident that this two track legislative process, which has never been tried before, we'll work and will deliver over four chilean dollars in total infrastructure improvements in this country. >> i understand why the press among others is skeptical that i can actually get this deal done, on infrastructure and on human infrastructure. and i've watched and listen in the press declare my initiative dead so far. i don't think instead, i think it's still alive. i still have confidence will be able to get when i proposed. >> leading off our discussions tonight is someone i'm eager to talk to about this legislation pramila jayapal of washington state, she is chair of the congressional caucus -- a part of the house budget committee. you're in the thick of this. this budget resolution that bernie sanders is working on in

if you're jon tester from montana, to you really want to be on the hook for a bill that's going make for montana farmers and ranchers to pass on their land to their kids? jackie: no. >> huh-uh. so let's be clear. what they've said they're got is the votes to proceed to discussion. they don't have the votes for the 3.5 because, a, it's 5.5 and, b, that bill isn't even made and certainly not discussed widely among members of the house and senate. remember, right now the democrats have got a 3-vote margin in the house. and you've got some farm state democrats. are they going to make that difficult vote? you've got representatives from a state like new jersey that's got a lot of pharma companies, pharmaceutical companies. the administration's going to take a whack out of their hide. you've got so-called centrist democrats. do they really want to vote for a gigantic tax increase on companies that provide lots of jobs this their district? this is very much up in the air. jackie: no, it is, and i want you to explain something else to our viewers because it seems like nancy pelosi is playing

. >> woodruff: we look at the next steps in these negotiations with democratic senator jon tester of montana. he is a member of the bipartisan group which led the effort in securing this senate deal. senator tester, thank you so much for joining us. so tell us, what was the key that unlocked this deal after all these weeks of trying and fag? and tell us what did republicans give on, what did democrats give on? what did each side get? >> well, we'll start with what we got. we got a lot. this is the biggest infrastructure investment in america in this country's the history, and the jobs it's going to create, the ability for this package to be able to make us the premier economic power in the world can't be stated enough. and, look, i will tell you the negotiations went on for a lot longer than i thought they were going to have to go on, but you know how negotiations are, judy. it's about people covering every square inch and then going back and doing three or more times and pretty soon they get tired and say, we're going to do this. i'll tell you, the ten people ill worked with, the ni

i would to give thanks and express gratitude to jean shah een, mark warner, jon tester, and joe manchin, who have sacrificed many hours to get us to this deal today. i speak for all of us when i say over the course of these last several months, we developed not only significant trust with each other but significant desire to show that our process can work. while there will be questions about the details of the package and we will be happy to answer those, i would like to focus on the significance of this package and this moment. we left the floor of the u.s. senate where we had a strong and broad bipartisan showing to move forward on this historic legislation, the greatest investment in infrastructure in all of our lifetimes good -- lifetimes. it came not because folks were interested in their bridge or road or piece of the middle mile of broadband. it came because both of us -- each of us are committed to demonstrating to the country in the world that our government can work for the people of the united states of america. we intend to show, over the coming days, as we work through this

i mean jon tester, i want to see you stand up. i want to see shaheen stand up. i want them to stand up and say this is an issue we will not compromise our values on. we know why we have a majority. it's because of black voters in this country. they're the reason we have to fight so hard for them on this issue of voting rights. >> listen, bakari, i think you're absolutely right that you should be able to criticize the president of the united states without the president calling you the enemy of the people. we are past that. so i know that you have to give it a caveat, but i think the person president is okay with the criticism whether he agrees with you or not. but i remember those days quite frankly very well with the twitter blowing up. the president just called you the enemy of the people. i'm so glad that is behind us. i agree with you. we should be able to criticize the country and the president. that's what america is all about. thank you. >>> i got to report to you some breaking news tonight out of washington, d.c. d.c. metropolitan police searching for a

others like senator jon tester are applauding was built infrastructure into the blueprint so much worklet democrats fight it out repeating their one big criticism inflation it? >> will generate zero republican support and hopefully there will be a few brave democrats that understand running the country into the ground taxing and debt is not a good idea. >> progressives who won't vote for the bipartisan hard infrastructure bill unless the social spending comes right along behind it making the case for the 3.5 trillion. leary negotiations will shave off too much of what they want. >> inflation is a real concern. but we should also be concerned about is it real inflation wages for many, many workers in this country has not gone up. for almost 50 years. people are paying much more than they can afford for child care, for college, for healthcare. >> schumer echoing it with an appeal to moderates. >> the experts like secretary yellen and chairman powell believe that these are certainly needed. the inflationary, danger, i don't believe is close to the needs for this. >> jacqui heinrich report

. >> and norman ornstein, jon tester said something like that yesterday he said he actually thinks there should be more than 60 votes when you get to actually voting on this bill. >> it wouldn't surprise me that we are up around 80, which would be excellently astonishing given what we've seen with interaction between the parties and -- in the past. and mcconnell's pledge that he would be against anything joe biden would want to do. we have to keep in mind, the next time we get to this it will be tricky. it's not only getting through the senate where a lot of progressives are unhappy with what's been left out, it's that christian cinema who was a major negotiator on all this -- kristen cinema has dashed water on the three and a half million dollar plan that is accomplished itself in the senate. they're gonna make some adjustments. when i look at this team, the one john was talking about, even the white house, team dean, spiraling at least terrell, the liaison with congress, pete buttigieg, working hand in glove with those senators and making the outrage to the host congress of -- as, well

reporter: others like jon tester are prodding about flexibility for other changes.peating their one big criticism, inflation. >> it will generate zero republican support. hopefully a few brave democrats understand that running the country into the ground with taxing and debt is not a good idea. reporter: progressives won't vote for the bipartisan hard infrastructure bill unless the social spending coming along behind it making the case for 3.5 trillion, that the real inflation is lagging wages, making health care, child care, education out of reach. liz? elizabeth: jackie, thank you so much for joining us. good to see you. okay senate majority leader chuck schumer he is doing bare knuckle politics. he will force a vote next week on this spending when a bill has not even been introduced for it. welcome back to the show tennessee senator bill hagerty. senator, great to have you back on. are you hearing the same thing that senate democrats, senate democrats are balking at this? are you hearing that too, they lack democrat votes? >> i heard the quote from joe manchin. i

jon tester says it would raise more problems than solves.eople get into drugs, the gateway drug argument. you have people that wouldn't want their workers doing this and their desk mate and airplane pilot doing this. they don't want thirteen agers doing this. let's be honest. yet, when you ask them overall do they support the policy, the number of americans that support it has surged. what is happening? >> well, i think there is a big misinformation campaign on an industry that relies on addiction for profit. this is about money. this isn't about anything else. if it was about social justice, we would only talk about decriminalization. let's expunge records and not throw someone in prison and arrm and again, they have a lot of money. they changed public opinion. i also think that the american people often mix up the issue, also of decriminalization and legalization. when you ask them, i'm not sure they're envisioning the bills that legalize 99% potent dabs, these gummys, ice creams, candies, sodas. i'm not sure people quite understand even w

we'll be talking to senator jon tester, one of the senators who helped negotiate that deal in just a

we look at what is in the ball with democratic senator jon -- the bill with democratic senator jon testerf montana. he is a member of the bipartisan group which led the effort in securing this senate deal. thank you for joining us. what was the key that unlocked this deal? after all these weeks of trying and failing. and tell us what republicans gave, what did democrats give, with the each side get? >> we got a lot. this is the biggest infrastructure investment in this country's history. it's going to create the ability for this package to make us the premier economic power in the world which cannot be stated enough. negotiations went on longer than i thought they were going to have to go on. but you know how negotiations are. it is about people covering every square inch and then going back three more times. pretty soon they get tired and say we are going to do this. the 10 people i work with, nine people on the committee and the white house, everybody to a person wanted to get to yes. that is really the key and that is why this happened. >> i want to ask you what is being spent on highw

. >> norm ornstein, jon tester said something like that last night with ali velshi, saying he expects actually more than 68 votes when you get to actually voting on this bill. >> it wouldn't surprise me that we're up around 80, which would be absolutely astonishing given what we've seen with the interaction between the parties in the past and of course mcconnell's pledge that he would be 100% against everything joe biden wanted to do. we have to keep in mind that the next part of this is going to be tricky. it's not only getting this through the senate, through a house where a lot of progressives are unhappy with what's been left out. it's that kyrsten sinema, who was a major negotiator on all of this, has dashed some cold water on the ambitious $3.5 trillion plan that is a compromise itself in the senate. they're going to have to make some adjustments. but when i look at this team, the one that john was talking about, even the white house team, gene sperling, louisa terrell, the liaison with congress, pete buttigieg working hand in glove with those senators and making the outreach to

. >> democrat jon tester warns don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. >> if you want to findis bill you can find it if you want to take a look at the body of this bill and what it does you will support it. unless have you got a political agenda. >> but a bipartisan senate deal means nothing to the house. >> i can't commit to passing something that i don't even know what it is yet. >> progressives have their own priorities. >> the american people are not going to get a win when f. we simply invest in roads and bridges but don't take on climate change. >> former congressional black caucus chairman and current white house adviser cedric richmond making a hard sell to colleagues on the democrats only bill. >> what we are going to do with the infrastructure bill is remind people that historic investment, remind people of the racial equity that is embedded throughout this bill. >> it's going to be about the math. democrats need all 50 senators, including sinema to pass their own bill and house democrats can only lose four votes, even if they tone down the bill to court the left. br

joe manchin, jon tester, have suggested they are open to the idea. they could potentially get behind a bill this big but they want to know what's in there, how it's paid for, all the key things that will be dealt with over the next several weeks of the some of the big votes are expected to happen before the august recess. at that point we can see whether or not joe biden's agenda will actually come to fruition. still, negotiations happening behind the scenes tonight and into tomorrow to see if that bipartisan deal can actually come together. so joe biden making a sales pitch but still an open question about whether it can get through both chambers and he can look forward to signing this in the months ahead. >>> so a fox tv host was challenged on live television to say that donald trump lost the 2020 election. we'll show you what happened after that confrontation and talk to the texas lawmaker who made the challenge. >>> plus the biden administration is launching a new plan to relocate afghans who helped the u.s. but who were left behind. what's being

jon tester in montana. i think joe manchin listens and i'm not giving up. i'll leave it at that.topic, senator. i want you to hear what president biden said about social media giants and misinformation this week. >> they're killing people. i mean, it really -- look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated. and they're kill ing people. >> do you think facebook should face consequences and should pacebook be broken up? >> social media has greatly contributed to this misinformation. there's no doubt. look at the numbers from the kaiser foundation. two-thirds of the people who have not gotten vaccinated say because they've gotten something off social media. come on. so i really appreciate president biden calling this out. and for months now, i've been taking on the dirty dozen, 12 people responsible for something like 60% of this misinformation. some of them have been taken off of their account. but there's more to do. i think we should also look at changing the liability standards when it comes to vaccine misinformation. senator warner and i introduced a bill that would

it's maggie hassan, it's mark kelly, it's jon tester.s democrats that don't have any idea what luxury it must be to not worry about a general election. and that's what this is going to come down to. >> yeah. >> how big will it ultimately be. and how will they pay for it. and will the people that have to fight in the general as democrats be on board. >> all right. and claire, just to greet our viewers into what we're seeing here, we are looking at the driveway outside the capitol and the motorcade carrying the president right there. pulling up to the carriage entrance here. we don't expect that president biden would be speaking with reporters here because he's going to pull into kind of a closed-over driveway. as you can see, there's no cameras on that corner which there occasionally are. this, of course, he's going to head up inside. and garrett haake will probably be seeing him sat his position in a second. claire, let's just pick up on what you were saying about how to pay for this because that does seem to be a line in the sand that s

likes of jon tester from montana and maggie hassan new hampshire.d to lose anyone on this. so wednesday is the day with the deadlines for the democrats to come to an agreement at least on the top line 3 1/2 trillion dollar figure. then this afternoon his plan was to file cloture around set up this wednesday, basically a test vote on infrastructure but now with collins pushing for him to delay we'll see. maybe the next hour or so what senator schumer decides to do. but a lot of money on the line, charles. charles: a lot, connell. i don't think people are even preparing themselves for what we might see. could be some huge news. thank you for walking us through it. really appreciate that. reminds me, folks, even though the affordable care act known as obamacare, that was passed on march 21st, 2010. same way strictly along party lines. that november republicans captured 63 house seats. in fact surpassed the 54 they won in the so-called republican revolution of 1994. i'm bringing this up because i think a lot of democrats are ready to commit similar sort

virtually impossible for farming range families to pasture land onto the kids and the grandkids if your jon testerm my tina you want to be on the hook for a bill that makes it hard for montana farmers and ranchers to pass on to the lien to the kids let's be clear what they saidhe they'd done the vots to proceed to a discussion they don't have the votes for the 3.5 because it's not 3.5 it's 5.5 and that bill is not made or discussed widely among members of the housee and senate rememr the democrats have a three vote margin in the house and uniform state democrats will they make that difficult. you have representatives from state like new jersey that's got a lot of pharma companies, pharmaceutical company, the administrations going to take a whack you have centrist democrats on companies and provide jobs in the district this is up in the air. jackie: it is explained to her viewers it seems like nancy pelosi isn playing chicken she saying i will not pass the 1 trillion infrastructure plan unless i can push through the three and half trillion also in the wall y street journal senate republicans are ta

how he feels about, you know, coming from a coal state, but they also list another democrat like jon tester and chris coons and mark kelly out in arizona as sort of their big fish that they like to reel in. there's no allegations of illegality here and their campaign donations that are public aren't mind blowing but it doesn't look great, especially as that in infrastructure bill was stripped of so much of the climate tackling infrastructure they're proposing. >> and this is, of course, all happening amid record heat waves in this country. we are seeing triple different temperatures in places like portland and seattle that are usually much cooler this time of year. dozens have died from the heat. there's this town in canada, about 195 miles east of vancouver, that town caught fire, more than 1,000 people had to flee. what is causing this extreme heat in the pacific northwest and are we prepared for it to get worse? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, the latter question is the bigger one. if you were looking for a climate haven at the beginning of june, you would have picked a place like litton, bri

differences in the framework since they reached a deal with president joe biden last month, senator jon testeraid the group, which hopes to finish its negotiations this weekend, is still at an impasse over and funding for transit. the disagreement could sink the whole thing, said the montana democrat, who has been traditionally one of the more optimistic members of the negotiating team, but i don't think it is going to. so negotiations continue this weekend on that. we will keep you posted on any news out of the negotiations. watertown, tennessee, good morning to al on the independent line. caller: i have about three topics. the first is when you have these individuals like the president of the urban league on, the first question you need to ask is, who funds your organization, where is your money spent, how many full-time employees, and where are your offices? it is quite possible that some of your guests are the only employee. i think for disclosure, any of your guests to represent an organization, you try to find out on a consistent basis, these topics. the next thing is, you know, you clai