breaking news tonight as cnn projects that north carolina -- the other big story, the return of jonah goldbergthor of "the tierney of cliches. welcome back, jonah. >> thanks for having me. >> i fear we got off on the wrong foot, we went off on a little bit of a tangent about the story of the day, the -- i have done the gallant, very british thing of inviting you back and we can have round two, predominantly talking about the book this time. >> invited, implored, these are distinctions with a different, but i'm delighted to be back. >> this is the thing i find quite ironic, i think. after our last exchange, there was an assumption made i think by you and then by your army of supporters online, which becomes like a kind of -- like a new invading twitter, facebook online roman army, i was this screaming wet liberal who had been became zeifying the right. because i'm not a screaming wet liberal. i just lap to disagree with you on that particular story. now here's where i'm spin back the premise of your book. it -- >> i'm glad you brought this up, because the one question you asked me on the last s

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let's talk about the voting age jonah goldberg. he's the editor of the national review online and he was ranting about young people either too stupid to vote and even went as far as saying that maybe we should raise the voting age to collect. i don't think you politics is something very special or enviable. personally i think the voting age should be much higher not lower going to run the country one day so we should really explain why there's so frickin stupid about so many things it is a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity than you. oh. i mean i'm definitely not that i think of there are a lot of young voters out there that are woefully misinformed and it's always something that scares me a little bit but i mean we should raise the voting age and raise of voting age that we should raise the military age or you know we bring it all down and drinking i mean let's let's just have one one standard for everything you know the reality is that there are a lot of demographics other than young

told time and happy hour obama makes a mistake during a speech that a little cringe worthy and jonah goldberg declares the view. to the state. of mind of american power continuing. by the time revolution. and there. were very good. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. here is what i. like and they alone are so they'll get the real headline that none of them are the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back in t.v. . welcome to the capital account i'm lauren lyster. all right guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're giving it to the f.b.i. for pets are waiting a

jenna -- jonah goldberg, national at large from. good morning, joe gnaw. >> good morning, bill. bill: it is a political year. how is that playing to the story? >> a lot of ways an embarrassi date. it is kind of thinghere erybody tinabout is rationally uderstand a l of people,tartiiuy ho p bletininlan deeresret r at. itas hryrun's t wor w i nodyon' tnkha dr der cd r i s hlalalim'tulmesindai ofciti tin t get credit for something, to get more credit for something he deserves. bill: to that point then, i wonder how much does it matter in election year? how much does it matter in mid-october or does it matter for the moment? >> i think it matters a little bit for the moment. i don't think it matters in october. remember this is not the first time they tried to turn bin laden's death into political capital. back six months, a year ago they were talking about how, you know, the fact that president obama kild biladen pres the should supporthe whe use'sreen engy ogamndll t ret. at bmbtterl th i st. yb ty'prpi yhe ouwotori hi ainin oobn aifre w. asof n idot init llhgee mny op'sis. llgd lc

jonah goldberg, kirsten powers. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. ing us on this memorial day. appreciate that. jonah, before we get to the first question, take a look at the preference by the veteran status poll done by gallup. it shows that romney had 68% to 34% for obama among veterans. support among veterans. nonveterans, obama comes out in front, 48 p.c. to 44%. but it shows a decided advantage for mitt romney by veterans. what do you make of that? >> i spent part of my memorial day going over demographics of the veterans. it shouldn't shock us that romney is doing well. the veterans skew older male, red states. southern. that is where the republican advantage generally is in the electorate. it should capture some of that. at the same time, it seems to me if you were a traditional military voter, you might have some serious problems with obama. the way he sometimes he talked about the military, talked about the troops. often seems narcissistic, political, and rub people the wrong way. the other day he said troops were fighting op his behalf. not

jonah goldberg thinks so. >> my view is if they are going to run the country in one day, we can explaintupid about so many things. it's a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity than youth. we're all born idiots. we get over that condition as we get less young. >> andrea: to be young again. there was a saying, some say it was churchhill but he says he didn't say it. if you're not a liberal at 25, you have no heart. if you are not a conservative at 35, you have no brain. >> eric: i agree with whoever was the author of the quote. young people are enamored with president obama. my son and his friends talk about how he's doing a great job. >> andrea: your son? >> eric: we do discussions about occupy wall street and what it means to be a liberal and conservative. clearly there is an environment in the school setting proliberal. you can't believe slant in textbook. >> bob: you are as per situationsive with him as you with me. >> andrea: you agree with jonah? >> bob: the problem with jonah he grew up to be right winger. not conservative, right winger. y

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let's talk about it with jonah goldberg, the author of "tyranny of cliches," also editor at large at e national review. jonah, 52% say they would vote for president obama, but he did much better the last time around against john mccain, something like 66%. does it show that his support is slipping among young voters? >> yeah. there are a couple different facts to piece out here. first of all, one of the things that obama did in 2008 was he grew the size of the youth vote relative to the rest of the electorate. he added three million young voters to the rolls. which meant that he blew out the projection models for places like north carolina, indiana and even virginia. jon: they were excited. >> they were very excited, they were very enthusiastic. so the issue now isn't whether or not necessarily he wins the youth vote, it's how big the youth vote will be. and my suspicion even though a lot of young people say they're going to vote for obama, a lot of them respect going to go around -- aren't going to show up at the polls come november. romney can lose the youth vote, but if the youth v

martha: so let's bring in jonah goldberg a fox news contributor. >> food morning.tha: my first question was, well, how much money has been spent on these programs in the past? >> right. it's one of the depressing things about the age we're in where $20 million you're like, oh, that's not that much, you know? [laughter] it's amazing how little 20 million gets you from the government these days. martha: so you have a problem with this expenditure? >> well, look, i have a problem -- part of what this is going to do is going to be an ad campaign telling people how to live right and live healthy, and i'm not a big nanny state guy. i think part of that's tearily troubling. i also think the timing of this, they decided to spend $20 million in the middle of, you know, a presidential campaign. if this smacks even slightly of politics, i think that's incredibly inappropriate, and i don't have a lot of faith in the obama administration for it not to smack of politics. and lastly, there's a real irony here. everybody is getting all upset about big money in politics, big money

also a man with very strong opinions and things got pretty heated with jonah goldberg.

. >>> i had a pretty lively dispute with jonah goldberg last night about this because i dependent thinkit was unreasonable of the democrats to remind people that mitt romney had gone on the record during the debate about the hunt for bin laden saying he didn't really think it was worth the vast expense to go after one guy. admittedly it came in the context of why the comments about the general cost of the war in afghanistan and so on, but was it unfair of barack obama to capitalize? he's a politician. it is election year. he did order the hit on bin laden. it was successful. and mitt romney was on the record saying, i don't think the cost is worth it. >> i think that's totally fair game. clearly, the campaign in chicago decided they're going to make the bin laden raid a centerpiece of the campaign. i think there's a danger of overplaying that hand, and i really think letting the record speak for itself with the president's actions and his decisions and how it went down will probably serve them better later on rather than get into this politicized debate over the politicization of the bi

let's talk about it with jonah goldberg national review's editor at large.a listen, first of all to what reinus prebus has to say. >> they will have a circular firing squad and a blame game going on for a few weeks, then they will have to come back and tri to win this thing in november. wisconsin goes red for mitt romney? it's over, it's lights out for barack obama. jon: what due think that prediction, jonah. >> reporter: i think he's light insofar as it if goes for mitt romney it is a disaster for barack obama. there are a lot of states between here and there. wisconsin, particularly madison is more like a progressivism's home tree from afte "avatar"." it's very hard to come back from that. the democrats have invested enormously in this race. even if they simply force barack obama to spend time campaigning in wisconsin, that is bad news for barack obama, because he needs to have states like wisconsin in his solemn column from the get go. jon: debbie wasserman schultz sees it the other way from her republican counterpart. let's see what she had to say. >> i

jonah goldberg says, hey where the part is obama fix's julia's broken soul?ord what do you make of that. >> under obama i thought idea was go forward and not set the women's movement back 50 years. women should be outraged by obama's sexist inference they basically can not succeed without his nanny state policies. here's the kicker, women already lost 800,000 jobs under obama. so i don't really get what the message is here. this is obviously a gimmick by a gimmick president to try to get four more years. martha: let's take a look at what mitt romney's response to this was. and we'll put that up and show quote, reaction. by all accounts president obama's policies failed women. like all americans and they deserve a president who will focus on getting america back on track. you know, what do you make of all that, going on the conservative side of the fence in reaction to this, margie? >> i think they're scrambling about. they have a double-digit deficit among women and their policy is, you're on your own. when mitt romney says in very political calculated way, w

jenna -- jonah goldberg, national at large from. good morning, joe gnaw. >> good morning, bill. bill: it is a political year. how is that playing to the story? >> a lot of ways an embarrassing debate. it is kind of thing where everybody thinks about this rationally understand as lot of people, starting with guy who put bullet in bin laden deserves credit for that. it was on harry truman's watch we won world war ii. nobody doesn't think that fdr deserves credit for it. in the hot house silly season it has become a political football. i think that reflects poorly on obama. maybe it works for him in the polls short term but i think it makes him look crass. hypocritical. he says he was the guy who, you know, don't spike the football and all the rest. we don't do this for a trophy. now making it into a political issue. bill: i heard you say you don't have a problem with him campaigning on this and flying the flag to an extent but i wonder if you have a problem from the moment we saw yesterday with the japanese prime minister in the east room of the white house when it clearly became

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. >> what do you make of jonah goldberg's comments that the youth really doesn't matter?s be going after the youth? >> the youth are still going to come out and vote in this next election cycle and i think -- i don't know that we necessarily have a certain specific agenda for them. what we see the youth doing is looking at what obama offers them is a bailout and more social programs and they say when they graduate from college, that hasn't translated into a job for them so where they're at right now, after i graduate from college, i have to live with my mom and dad, i might be working at starbucks. i want an opportunity like my mother and father had. when they find that message, they'll find a home in the republican party. >> look at how well candidate obama did with the youth. 66% compared to john mccain at 32%. the whole message of hope and change really seemed to resonate with the young people. one of the things that you aquaint now is what happened after president carter and more youth voting for president reagan the next time around. do you think this would happen th

jonah goldberg from the national review, thanks for being here. >> good to be here. >> clayton: cominga look at the video screen. what's happening could be the key to autism. ground breaking now, what you could do to see the first signs of the prem. >> and don't get fresh, the fresh prinz prince of bel air a sometimes supporters don't know what caused the smackdown ahead. ♪ >> 24 minutes past the hour now, we have a fox news alert. what you're watching is a historic meeting, the president, president obama about to give opening remarks at camp david on the g8 summit. >> you're welcome as long as you don't break anything. >> this is by the way, the largest gathering whatever of international leaders at camp david and i'm glad that we could have arranged for good weather. last night, we had a chance to discuss some court issues that affect our common security and i want to say that we are unified when it comes to our an i proech with-- approach with iran. i think we all agree iran has the right to peaceful nuclear pow power, but international rules and norms and its inability thus far to

here is the conservative columnist and commentator jonah goldbe goldberg. >> president of the unitedt, running campaign ads gloating about it saying the other guy isn't tough enough to do the things i did which i think is reprehensible? >> rep. henceible? >> going by obama's own standards i think is reprehensible. >> the president's response to the criticism in the news conference said "i hardly think you've seen any excessive celebration taking place here." we've seen the president's foreign policy come under attack by republicans, definitely part of this campaign and it will continue to be straight through february. >> the president came out with a new ad this morning. what's it say? >> it's interesting, playing in ohio, virginia and iowa. of course you know iowa, battleground states and the ad starts back by pushing against republican ads that calls the president part of big oil's interest and touts the president's green energy program which conservatives have heavily criticized and listen to what it says about governor romney. >> what about mitt romney? has a corporate ceo, he sh

jonah hill have written with you? >> yes. well seth rogen, who's obviously a brilliant talent, he works with his partner evan goldberg who producesow to pay for both of them. i said we're just going to shoot you, seth. he said no, i go everywhere with my partner. all right. you have to come on the road with us and share a bed and you're going to have to share a way. they said fine. the two guys would write in their underpants in bed with like a laptop, you know, 15 beers around. >> i'm thinking that kind of works for you. i have to say i met your wife at a book party, she is so lovely, isla, and i'm thinking somebody's partner really shows the type of person that they are, is where i'm going with this. she's so lovely, such a doll, you cannot be possibly obnoxious at home? you can't be? >> i try to be. i try to be. >> no, no, no. how do you see yourself as a husband and a dad? you've got two lovely children. >> well i -- >> i'm curious about what you're like? >> i try to keep my private life separate. >> yeah. >> you know. >> the more outrageous you can be in public. >> exactly. i try to be -- >> do you know the next character? >